Forum MVP Rude Posted December 1 Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 1 Resumes mismi 0-1 vs top 25 smu 0-0 Indiana 0-1 penn state 1-1(Illinois lol) ohio state 2-1 souty Carolina 3-2 bana 3-1. Oregon 3-0(Boise state and Illinois) I assume Boise state has no wins either. This is completely different than the BCS that put in a 2 loss Bama who won it all b/c they had a brutal schedule. If you don’t have 1 top 25 win you should not be in a playoff. If Indiana was in the SEC they would be at best 8-4. Would Boise state be even 8-4? Florida played 7 top 25 teams. Evil schedule. Kentucky played Georgia, Texas, Tennessee, ole Miss, South Carolina and Louisville. You aren’t getting in with that schedule. To compare that to Indianas schedule with no wins over FPI top 30 teams. At least half the SEC is 11-1 vs indianas schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted December 4 Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 4 Alabama lost 24 to 3 to 6 and 6 Oklahoma team. They have 3 losses. I just don’t care for college football anymore. On field performance doesn’t matter. Let’s just pick the 12 in September and giddy up. They already got their minds made up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted December 4 Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 4 There is something to the process but at the end of the day, it’s what makes the most $$$$$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted December 4 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 4 15 hours ago, Tom Banjo said: Alabama lost 24 to 3 to 6 and 6 Oklahoma team. They have 3 losses. I just don’t care for college football anymore. On field performance doesn’t matter. Let’s just pick the 12 in September and giddy up. They already got their minds made up. there are 12 SEC teams in the FPI spread based metric top 30 including 6-6 Oklahoma. It’s too brutal a league. Note Indiana only played 2 top 30 teams all year. penn states best win is Illinois. indianas is maybe Minnesota By this reasoning some mountain west with 1 loss should get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted December 4 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 4 Team recruiting ranks for next year. 8 of top 11 SEC. Top 3 all SEC. 15 of top 32 classes sec. 22 of the 33 overall 5-star players are going SEC. OF course Ohio state is up there as usual with Oregon at 4th and 5th. Surprisingly Michigan has the 7th class. They generally don’t crack the top 10. 22 of the 33 overall 5-star players are going SEC. https://247sports.com/Season/2025-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted December 4 Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 4 I’m not saying the SEC doesn’t have some teams belonging in the playoff. Even 3 loss teams but Alabama lost to Oklahoma and Vanderbilt both 6 and 6 teams. I might even put in another 3 loss SEC team over them. Ole Miss has a better resume. They have some bad losses too but close game losses. Bama got dominated by Oklahoma. They both beat Georgia but ole miss beat them by more. You can’t tell me there isn’t some Alabama bias here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted December 5 Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 5 Miami is a victim of recency-bias losing 2 of their 3 but they really only have themselves to blame with the schedule they had. Bama gets humbled by a bad OK team (decent defense) and scores only 3 points for their 3rd loss of the season. Miami's 2 losses were by a combined 9 points. I have to remember that the CFB playoff should really be named CFP/ESPN invitational. Bama has ultimate name recognition which makes the matchups seem more sexy. Would you rather watch a game featuring a QB in Milroe who is pedestrian at best and can struggle to generate chunk/scoring plays for long strethces? OR a Miami team with a top-5 offense (#1 in points-per-game) and a QB who is 2nd in the country in passing yards. Sure, Miami can't stop anyone but I'd rather have a fun track meet like 48-45 than a 17-13 slog. While I still agree that the SEC is still the best conference in football, the disparity between #1 and #2 is as small as it's ever been. NIL and the Portal has disbursed the CFB talent more thoroughly across the Power 5. It's why Saban bailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted December 6 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 6 10 hours ago, Tea said: Miami is a victim of recency-bias losing 2 of their 3 but they really only have themselves to blame with the schedule they had. Bama gets humbled by a bad OK team (decent defense) and scores only 3 points for their 3rd loss of the season. Miami's 2 losses were by a combined 9 points. I have to remember that the CFB playoff should really be named CFP/ESPN invitational. Bama has ultimate name recognition which makes the matchups seem more sexy. Would you rather watch a game featuring a QB in Milroe who is pedestrian at best and can struggle to generate chunk/scoring plays for long strethces? OR a Miami team with a top-5 offense (#1 in points-per-game) and a QB who is 2nd in the country in passing yards. Sure, Miami can't stop anyone but I'd rather have a fun track meet like 48-45 than a 17-13 slog. While I still agree that the SEC is still the best conference in football, the disparity between #1 and #2 is as small as it's ever been. NIL and the Portal has disbursed the CFB talent more thoroughly across the Power 5. It's why Saban bailed. Bama has 3 top 25 wins. Miami 0. In the NFL, great teams are 13-4. 4 losses n/c when you play good teams a lot you lose some. Miami and Illinois haven’t beaten a top 25 team all year. I remember years ago when AP number 12 Northwesterm played AP 25 in a bowl game. Tennesssee was favored by 14. They won by double that but northwestern was rank 12…… play no one and you have a better record. Very simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted December 6 Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 6 I hope Alabama gets dragged. Not a popular opinion and it’s not backed up by Rude metrics but the SEC isn’t as good as the committee thinks they are. This ain’t the 2010’s no mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted December 6 Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 6 It’s funny. I’m arguing for other SEC teams to get in. Alabama just hasn’t been one of the top 12 teams this year. I don’t need metrics simple eye test. They couldn’t score against Oklahoma. 24 to 3 is a beat down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted December 6 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 6 10 hours ago, Tea said: I hope Alabama gets dragged. Not a popular opinion and it’s not backed up by Rude metrics but the SEC isn’t as good as the committee thinks they are. This ain’t the 2010’s no mo the teams ar the top are not as good true. But the depth is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP acududeman Posted December 7 Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 7 It's a shame that the refs stole the LSU game from the Gamecocks. Cocks playing about as well as any team in the country right now imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted December 7 Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 7 Gamecocks playing better than Bama for sure. It’s funny the best team in the SEC this year is really a big 12 team that just joined the SEC. SEC fanboys would’ve said put Texas in the SEC and they lose games. Same shit they say about Penn St or Indiana or any of the other really good teams in different conferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted December 8 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 8 lol at 11-2 Penn state thinking with 2 decent defenders they are in the same class as Texas or Georgia. 2nd tier team lacking depth of talent. 4 hours ago, Tom Banjo said: Gamecocks playing better than Bama for sure. It’s funny the best team in the SEC this year is really a big 12 team that just joined the SEC. SEC fanboys would’ve said put Texas in the SEC and they lose games. Same shit they say about Penn St or Indiana or any of the other really good teams in different conferences. maybe you should have watched the game 1st. And the SEC goes 12 deep. The big ten goes 5 deep. It’s comparing apples to oranges. Next you are going to tell me how SMU is a legit team too lol. Oh boy. Penn state about to go 1-2 vs top 25 with best win Illinois. Illinois. Might as well be vandy b/c that’s their sec equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted December 8 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 8 LOL a pac 12 team just won the big 10. Soft as hell wins the “physical” big 10. oh and the big 12 didn’t win the SEC. You just jinxed it. Penn state and their best win beating Illinois tells you what your conference is. Illinois lmao. Illinois 😂That’s their only win vs top 25. And you think you’re a legit playoff team lol omg lol I just saw you said Indiana is a really good team. That’s sad bro. Indiana isn’t good. They didn’t beat 1 ranked team all year. Come on man. Indiana. That’s where you make your last stand??? Oh boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted December 8 Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 8 Indiana didn’t lose to anyone of the quality of Vanderbilt or Oklahoma. They beat a Michigan team that beat Ohio st. Their schedule isn’t very good. They may not even be a true top 12 team. They belong in the top 12 due to performance. Their only lose is to another playoff team. Bama can hype their strength of schedule but at the end of the day their performance against mediocre team Oklahoma and Vanderbilt matters. Those should be easy wins for top 12 teams. Indiana beat Michigan Nebraska Washington all that are on that level. 24 to 3 loss to Oklahoma basically eliminate for the playoff if your being honest. Lose 24 to 21 that’s different but Oklahoma handled them. Texas did lose to Georgia. Georgia is a top 12 team. Eye test I still saw Texas as better team and also saw some ref shit that I didn’t like and the announcer speaking bull shit. Texas missed a field goal after a play that was a clear late hit on QB. Whistle had blown several times and he was spiked to the ground. Refs make the right call and Texas more than likely gets 3 and real possibility they get 7. Win game. Announcer said good no call cause refs don’t want to be the story. Man with that attitude I’m laying someone out helmet to helmet across middle. Good no call right. That’s a joke. Don’t get me wrong. Georgia is good and I see that game as a toss up they both top 10 teams. Alabama is not. And that’s who you fighting for. There was also an interception for Georgia where the intercepting player was clearly holding a fistful of jersey on the receiver. By the way, I want you to know I don’t think the refs really changed the outcome of the game. Georgia is a good enough to beat anyone. So is Texas. I wouldn’t be surprised if they meet again and we get different outcome but those two plays really stand out when you have an overtime game. And the late hit no call on the QB is a complete and utter bull shit. The announcers commentary blew my mind. This wasn’t a shove with QBs foot on the line going out of bounds. They had been blowing the whistle for over a second multiple whistles. You have to make that call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted December 8 Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 8 Also tell me you’d be surprised if 2 big 10 teams end up in the final 4 and 4 big 10 teams end up in the final 8. Big 10 up there with SEC at this point. I give slight but real slight edge to SEC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted December 9 Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 9 Bama gets left out and the AD immediately says, "We have said that we would need to see how strength of schedule would be evaluated by the CFP," Byrne wrote. "With this outcome, we will need to asses how many P4 nonconference games make sense in the future to put us in the best position to participate in the CFP. That is not good for college football." He means, Alabama not being good enough to make it to a 12-team playoff is bad for the sport. GTFO with that.... My other favorite quote of the weekend came from Kirby Smart in the SEC championship postgame, "Well it means rest for a team that Greg Sankey and his staff sent on the road all year long, we get to take a little bit of a break and get ready for the College Football Playoff," Smart said postgame with Sankey a few feet away on the same stage. "This team needs some rest mentally, need a little time." Wait, what? Georgia played 4 road games. How many road games did every other team in the SEC play? 4. Where was the SEC championship game? In Georgia. The SEC has been the gold standard in CFB for decades, but I still get triggered by the entitlement and elitism. I hope the games are entertaining, and while it may not come to fruition, I hope the SEC takes it up the tailpipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted December 9 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 9 16 hours ago, Tom Banjo said: Also tell me you’d be surprised if 2 big 10 teams end up in the final 4 and 4 big 10 teams end up in the final 8. Big 10 up there with SEC at this point. I give slight but real slight edge to SEC. so a soft pac 12 team won the “physical” big 10 and no a big 12 did not win the SEC Big 10 is nowhere near the sec. The bottom of the big 10 is garbage. Oklahoma who you rag all the time is top 25 FPI. Florida is top 20. There’s nothing in the big 10 besides Oregon Ohio state Penn state and Michigan. If you try to tell me Illinois and Indiana with lack of talent are anywhere near the LSU, A&M, Florida, South Carolina ole Miss which are the mids of the sec I have some swampland to sell you. The SEC goes legit 10 deep. At 10 deep in big 10 you get Maryland and Rutgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP bs69 Posted December 10 Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 10 The problem with this year is not who got in, it's the automatic bye for conference Champs. Let them in but seed based on rank. It's created much easier paths for some than others. You could easily argue that Penn St. is better off than Oregon after losing to them. As an Ohio St. fan I was hoping to get that 6 slot but they obviously didn't count losses in the Championship games. But we choked again against Michigan and I accept that. The SEC teams need to do the same, anyone who watched that Alabama game against Oklahoma can't feel sorry for them. I was hoping the Gamecocks would get in, just feels wrong for Clemson to get in when the Cocks just beat them at their place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted December 10 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 10 Ohio state is a top 4 team with a bad loss. Unfortunately their road to just final 4 is Tennessee and Oregon. in NFL there are no brackets. If an 11 seed wins then they would likely play the 1. Here a 12 could play the 4 vs the 1 with how NFL reseeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted December 10 Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 10 On 12/9/2024 at 9:41 AM, Tea said: Bama gets left out and the AD immediately says, "We have said that we would need to see how strength of schedule would be evaluated by the CFP," Byrne wrote. "With this outcome, we will need to asses how many P4 nonconference games make sense in the future to put us in the best position to participate in the CFP. That is not good for college football." He means, Alabama not being good enough to make it to a 12-team playoff is bad for the sport. GTFO with that.... Update: So this genius says they have really take a hard look at future scheduling of P4 nonconference games and that makes it bad for CFB. Oh, ok. You do know that ALL of Alabama's losses were in-conference, right? Did you forget Oklahoma is in the SEC now? Alabama's non-conference slate this year was: Western KY, South Florida, Wisconsin, and Mercer. That's murderer's row right there The Alabama braintrust hard at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted December 10 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 10 Every team plays mostly scrubs. Bama scheduled Wisconsin but was a down year for them. Indiana played western Ky, FIU and Charlotte. penn states hardest was West Virginia osu was Akron, western Michigan and Marshall. do you wanna compare strength of schedule? ibdians 67th boiae st 78th georgia 1st bama 18th ohio srate 29th Penn state 30th. let’s just rank peeps by record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted December 11 Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 11 9 hours ago, Rude said: do you wanna compare strength of schedule? No. I want to harp on the Bama AD being a bleeping loser for his stupid comment. I just don’t like the attitude that a spot in the CFP is a birthright because they reside in the vaunted SEC. Sanctimonious bullshit triggers me a little… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted December 12 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted December 12 Bama beat Georgia bama beat Wisconsin by 32 Bama beat Missouri 34-0 bama lost to Tennessee by 7 bans lost to a good vandy team with best QB in SEC by 5. Vandy would be the 3rd hardest team indians faced this year. bama beat LSU by 29 bana got smoked by Oklahoma bama beat a good Auburn team by 14 bama is rank 4 in the FPI. They would be 8 point favs over SMU who’s schedule compared to that??? Indiana didn’t beat 1 ranked team all year. Smu didn’t either. Penn states best win was Illinois. lol at Illinois being anything more than a product of the weak big 10 schedule. it’s not entitlement. It’s schedule dude. Comparing a 2 loss SMU to a 3 loss Bama. Where’s the strength of wins?? And btw Oklahoma is a top 25 FPI team. They had a lot of close losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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