Random thoughts and randomness in general

[Tea]

3 hours ago, Milehighjoel. said:

Was morning dew garcias masterpiece or is it too relative to sat one song better than another if the shoe fits.   When dew was on.....man.  

I think Stella Blue and Terrapin were his tippy/tops.  You’re right tho:  When Jerry has a great Dew, it’s outta this world and then some

[John A]

3 hours ago, Tea said:

I think Stella Blue and Terrapin were his tippy/tops.  You’re right tho:  When Jerry has a great Dew, it’s outta this world and then some

To me, Morning Dew gets elevated for a few reasons. It became a symbol of something special in later years, as in if you got "The Dew" the show was necessarily something exceptional. That ties into the rarity in post hiatus years; once in '76, only a few times in '77, once in '78, and once in '79.  Plus it was there from the very beginning (literally as it was on the first album) so it had the most room for evolution.  And did it ever evolve, culminating with Jerry's vocal delivery in the post coma years.  All that and it's inherent pathos and power.

 

On the other hand, the likes of Stella Blue, Terrapin, and I'd add Comes A Time, were Garcia/Hunter compositions, so that should clearly carry lots of weight.  Good springboard for discussion, Milehighjoel.

[Tom Banjo]

I lean more towards comes a time Stella blue and the three piece of help through franklins. I even feel terrapin carried more actual weight but morning dew in the right spot obviously carries quite a bit of power. I think when it appeared early in the first set even possibly as the opener my mind isn't open enough for me and it often falls flat compared to when it is in the Jerry ballad spot.

Although much rarer I also feel world to give had tremendous power

[Greg from Chestertown]

Yea, I had a couple of immediate thoughts. First, Stella Blue. That might be because that was the first Jerry Ballad that I got into, through the album not a performance at one of my first shows. I think, I can’t remember. The other thought I had was that they all had a turn. The storyteller makes no choice… I think he gets into a tune and then  revisits it, polishing it a little more even time. It’s like asking a grandpa what’s  his favorite story to tell. They’re all good. With Jerry, I think it depends on the era in his history, when you got in to him. Which song he was spending time with at that time. They’re all good. With the internet, lately, I seek out the dark stars. That’s for his noodling on the guitar, not the soulful singing. Passionate singing, lyrics that fit him, gotta go with Stella. Visions of Johanna fits him well in his last year. Yea, great conversation. 

[Rude]

On 10/21/2021 at 3:41 AM, Tom Banjo said:

Dead feat in New Orleans was a good time. That was where whitney and I fell in love. I'll never forget that night. We went to a late night show after that and whitney passed out standing up in my arms. A friend said take her out back maybe she will get a second wind. Staff eventually told me I had to get her out of there. Such a unique vibe in New Orleans in many places security medics and even police might have been involved. They let us sit out back for like an hour and then decided that hey you just have to go. I miss New Orleans. Plan to do jazz fest again soon.

I remember we skipped that show. It was over $50 a ticket and last night of jazz fest(after eating at Felix’s every other meal and going WAY over budget, $100 was a chunk). We decided to hit blue nile on the cheap and call it an early night. I think we had to be up at 7am to get you to Memphis airport the next day and Whitney back to our neck of the woods. Made that drive all the way home without getting tired. I think that year 1 of jazz fest blew my mind with all the options and how fucking amazing it is that there was no getting tired on the drive. It was like a post show glow but bigger. Each year after that we kept adding more days until fucking covid wrecked it. After 8 days I fell out in 2019. Literally peeps had to hold me up. My liver said let’s get the fuck out of here. 8 days of nola living like a rock star was too much. I remember Barraco saying on stage in 2017 something like if you stay more than a few days down here this place will kill you. It’s jubilee with better food and a bed. FYI that may have been when you fell in love with Whitney but think she was a bit behind you on that from her convo with meili on the way home 😜. All worked out though. 

[Brian NJ]

On 10/20/2021 at 7:44 PM, BillK522 said:

Little feet opened for

the boys Oxford 88.

Was chasing the

Shakedown, took

until Berkeley.

 

Praise DSO.

I was at this show. Without Lowell I was not impressed.

If you haven't heard this give it a listen. Fantastic.

 

[Greg from Chestertown]

So, I pull into the laundromat a few years ago and this woman is sitting on a bench out front. As I walk away from my truck and towards her and the laundromat, she starts singing Box of Rain to me. (She saw my license plate, BOXRAIN) we became friends, needless to say. She’s a wildlife artist, has Done  some things with Native American themes also. She had a son who committed suicide at 24 years of age. She told me they played Ripple at his funeral. I hadn’t run into her in town for a few years but got a call from her recently. She’s moving to Ohio to live with her daughter, getting too old to live alone. (Gotta be in her eighties). They’re going through  the house, sorting through a lifetime of accumulating stuff. She called to let me know she had a stack of books about the Grateful Dead and wanted to know if I would like to have them. I stopped by this afternoon and picked them up. We hugged and she told me it’ll nice to have known you. I said yes, it’ll nice to have known  you too. Pretty cool, strangers until the realization that we have the Grateful Dead in common. Then, it’s  good friends. 

[bs69]

On 10/21/2021 at 6:32 PM, Milehighjoel. said:

Was morning dew garcias masterpiece or is it too relative to sat one song better than another if the shoe fits.   When dew was on.....man.  

IMHO the Dew is what makes Cornell 77 a great show. I also agree that the earlier speedy versions don't work nearly as well,  the song needed to evolve over time. Stella seemed to be there right from the beginning. I have a soft spot for Comes a time since I caught a very good one in my first show even though I didn't know what the hell I was witnessing at the time.

[Greg from Chestertown]

I got blown away by my first and only Comes a Time also. Unfortunately, I was too wasted on beer, pot, blotter, and opium to begin to comprehend what I was witnessing but it was great nonetheless. That alone motivated me to buy more Grateful Dead tickets and to ask what was actually in the pipe that was just handed to me, from that point forward. 

[Greg from Chestertown]

Just got a clip of shakedown going to commercial on the football game tonight. 

[Greg from Chestertown]

So, I work two days a week on an organic farm for a guy who used to be a trauma surgeon in the ER at San Francisco General Hospital, from 1965-1992. We go Out to lunch a lot during the slower times of the year. Over lunch, he has Some incredible stories from his past. About six months ago, we were talking about the Hell’s Angels motorcycle club. He told of a benefit they did every year at the Hospital. He told me a story of one member, Chocolate George, who got in a bad motorcycle accident. He had irreversible head injuries, ended up in a coma and eventually dying. While he was in the hospital, he was an attraction to all of the nurses because his body was covered with pornographic tattoos. Fast Forward to the other morning, I’m reading one of the books a local deadhead woman gave me, the Grateful Dead Family album. (See my post above, it’s a long story) I get to page 61, and there’s a picture of chocolate George! Blew my mind! I took the book into work and showed Frank, he got a laugh out of it., said Chocolate George came to a hard end. You had to be there. It was pretty cool. 

[Rude]

[Rude]

This will be the hot fashion at Deadco LA shows

[Dead duck]

2 hours ago, Rude said:

This will be the hot fashion at Deadco LA shows

Where’d you find a pic of my jubilee outfit? That shit was supposed to be a secret 🤣😆

[Greg from Chestertown]

How much does that cost? The same as a small, used sedan?

[Rude]

It looks like a prototype, not a production model. You need a small fan to keep those pants filled up with air vs wire mesh they are using which would likely rust from dancing sweat. Then you would have a very squeaky outfit as well as needing tetanus shots. 

[Greg from Chestertown]

He needs to get up with the Tin man from the Wizard of Oz. He could give him tips on outfit lubrication. 
  O-OI-IL C-AN, OI-L CA-N. 

[GoingBackTo Where....]

Spotify Won't Pull Joe Rogan – But Comedian 'Open To Change' And Even Issued Apology To Neil Young

Joe Rogan also took to social media platform Instagram on Sunday, where in a nearly 10 …

Forbes · 2h

 

Hmmm....all I can say.....

 

A southern man don't need him around anyhow!!!!!!

 

It is ironic that names from the 60's and 70's are trying to silence alternative thinking voices.  Not sure why the CDC has continually changed their stance on Covid 19, variants, vaccines, and other protocols. They are following the science and similar to minds, we all know science never changes----because if it did---why would anyone follow the science if its always changing its mind? 

 

Anyone else find it odd for the push of others to conform to what the government wants us to do?  That same government we all trust, love, and follow mindlessly because it knows best. 

 

To embrace the pharmaceutical industry which we all know exist for our best interest?   Of course----less oxycodone.   It only took 30 years for the government to cash in a second time with billion-dollar fines against the finest cure ever made!!!

 

What is freedom?  Nothing left to lose?   What do the unvaccinated lose?  Their life?   Is that not freedom, a choice to live or die?   Is that not the ultimate freedom?  

Personally, I think we should all be treated like sheep.  Like military.  Line up and drink whatever kool aide government says is good for you.  We all know, the government knows best!!!  Blind faith is important when dealing with the US government.   How any of us do not trust the government and the pharmaceutical industry surprises me.  These institutions are absolutely the finest, most honorable, honest, forthright, and calculating entities on the planet.  

 

Its amazing for me that there are actual people in this country who feel their body is autonomous.  Every man who is a national citizen by threat of force must sign up with the selective service.  Thank God women are not allowed to sign up for selective service, as we all know women are not as capable!!!  Who would even think of discriminating against gender, race, or religion, and sexual orientation?  A man who feels like he is a women should also be separated into a separate class of citizen by not having to sign up for selective service.  What women would want to go to war.  Men love it...war is a blast, especially when you come back home and spat on by your wonderful neighbors and other citizens!!

 

I wish I was young enough to volunteer again for military service.   I really want to go back to Eastern Europe...but with a United States uniform.   Our country is always right and should be followed blindly into battle.  If we only destroyed all of Vietnam and Cambodia, could we now not have to deal with AOC or Pelosi.   40 years of cold war, we finally get to fight a more democratic Russia with our more socialist ideology.  Does not matter -----Europe still cannot protect itself....why would they...our government knows all and has shown successfully how right we are throughout historic conflicts!!!  Pelosi should thank General Stonewall Jackson and General Robert E Lee for her position.  California was once Mexico before these racists took it for the United States.  Not sure why we don't give it back along with reparations.  

 

Those who have trepidations about the vaccine.....  please reconsider, your government says so, which makes it right!!!!!  For those who are patriotic and American loving people---Please continue to silence anyone and everyone who may have a different view.  Silence them---remove them from platforms.  Force the opposition down.  If they hold rally's or display any public support, destroy them as they don't think like you and must be removed or silenced.   You will not survive on your own otherwise.   There is nothing you can do to protect yourselves from these anarchists.   They are destroying the very fabric of society for which YOUR government affords you the right to live in!!!!!!

 

I wonder----how much does the company who produced polio and smallpox vaccine now make?   

  Citizen susceptibility to government in times of chaos drastically decreases.   Less control means more autonomy----especially after the Inserection by a few thousand citizens.  Russia has over 100,000 troops bordering Ukraine, and we are sending several thousand troops.  Those Russian soldiers must be pretty week compared to our few thousand citizens!!!

 

Oh Yea---those places that actually defunded the police----Record decrease in violent crimes!!!  Like record decrease in crimes overall.  Its amazing how governments can take acute public sentiment and quickly create utopias...and in only a year or two.   

 

So proud of America and what it now stands for.  Solid like a rock!!!  

 

Somehow, I still feel, a southern man don't need him around anyhow!!!!  

 

Tocqueville for me, appears to have a point!!

 

 

 

[Rude]

So you have the right to spout your views but those musicians can’t. Talk about being a snowflake. Oh no. A musician pulled their music for their beliefs. I’m going to lose my mind. Joe Rogan can do what he wants but they can’t. Got it. It’s the mind of the right wing. They want to cancel anyone who doesn’t think like them and don’t understand the hypocrisy of their stance. 

[John A]

19 hours ago, Rude said:

So you have the right to spout your views but those musicians can’t. Talk about being a snowflake. Oh no. A musician pulled their music for their beliefs. I’m going to lose my mind. Joe Rogan can do what he wants but they can’t. Got it. It’s the mind of the right wing. They want to cancel anyone who doesn’t think like them and don’t understand the hypocrisy of their stance. 

Agreed, but more impressively this post suggest you read that whole rant.  Impressive forum Deadication. 

 

On another subject, check out the He's Gone jam from 5-12-80 Boston.  Jerry, Phil, and Brent are all getting after it.  At one point they seem to be hinting at Caution.  Then just before the jam fades into drums things get nice and weird.  Good stuff.

[Wharf Rat Stu]

4 hours ago, John A said:

Agreed, but more impressively this post suggest you read that whole rant.  Impressive forum Deadication. 

 

On another subject, check out the He's Gone jam from 5-12-80 Boston.  Jerry, Phil, and Brent are all getting after it.  At one point they seem to be hinting at Caution.  Then just before the jam fades into drums things get nice and weird.  Good stuff.

John A.  That is crazy you mention 5-12-80, this is the exact show I selected at random today at work and am listening to Set I right now.  

5-12-80 is posted on YouTube by "Wall of Sound". 

In the comments section, someone gave a shout out to Rob Eaton for the post.

I know Rob did a lot of cleaning up of Betty Boards and posting shows etc., but does Rob go by the alias of "Wall of Sound"???  Just never heard that before.

Rob!  You out there????

[Hardpan]

5 hours ago, John A said:

Agreed, but more impressively this post suggest you read that whole rant.  Impressive forum Deadication. 

 

On another subject, check out the He's Gone jam from 5-12-80 Boston.  Jerry, Phil, and Brent are all getting after it.  At one point they seem to be hinting at Caution.  Then just before the jam fades into drums things get nice and weird.  Good stuff.

That was a killer jam, thanks for the recommendation, gotta check out the rest of that show now. 

[Greg from Chestertown]

I think the first couple/few years of the Brent era are underrated. A lot of gems in there, I think. 

[Wharf Rat Stu]

3 hours ago, Hardpan said:

That was a killer jam, thanks for the recommendation, gotta check out the rest of that show now. 

Be sure to listen to the US Bluz encore; Jerry singing with a GROWL! is a keeper!

[GoingBackTo Where....]

On 1/31/2022 at 7:55 PM, Rude said:

So you have the right to spout your views but those musicians can’t. Talk about being a snowflake. Oh no. A musician pulled their music for their beliefs. I’m going to lose my mind. Joe Rogan can do what he wants but they can’t. Got it. It’s the mind of the right wing. They want to cancel anyone who doesn’t think like them and don’t understand the hypocrisy of their stance. 

 

Line, Sinker and Hook!!  

 

Did not see Rogan pulling his show because of the music played on a third party app--or even requesting another party remove their productions because of ideological purposes---Its clearly one sided---not sure how your argument works here Rude.   

 

https://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2022/02/johns-hopkins-study-lockdowns-and-closures-had-no-affect-on-covid-19-deaths/

 

No effect on Covid-19 deaths, but devasting effects on children kicked out of school for a couple of years and a good portion of the adult population still dealing with depression and angst from having their lives blown up.

With all the restrictions, mandates, and control coming from the government at numerous levels, this study from Johns Hopkins University finds a collective impact of less than 1% on the Covid-19 death rate. Actually, saying it’s around 1% is generous. The real number they came up with was an improvement of… 0.2%.

 

Was it worth it to set children back in years of education for a 0.2% improvement in Covid-19 deaths? Some people would say yes, and those people are free to stay in self-lockdown for the rest of their lives.

The results are quite grim actually, what did we give up as a society for a 0.2% improvement on Covid-19 mortality:

“We find no evidence that lockdowns, school closures, border closures, and limiting gatherings have had a noticeable effect on COVID-19 mortality,” the researchers wrote.

But the research paper said lockdowns did have “devastating effects” on the economy and contributed to numerous social ills.

“They have contributed to reducing economic activity, raising unemployment, reducing schooling, causing political unrest, contributing to domestic violence, and undermining liberal democracy,” the report said.

John Hopkins must be one of the Republican funded University!!!   

 

Trump was in charge during lockdown and should bear the responsibility of creating this problem.   

 

I am self-interested here-----bit upset this whole thing caused less DSO play dates.  Forgive me on the nonpartisan approach, but don't f... with the music!!!!!  

 

When Russia invades Ukraine, you know what gas prices are going to do?   Some of you have tons of funds, some others look at cost/show ratios.   $4.00 gallon gas sucks!!!  

 

Its why this stuff is relevant when you are itching to see DSO perform--more and more!!!!  Be funny if the virus just disappears through mutation.   If that happens, could anyone say trump was wrong it just disappeared?   The irony in reading journals that now say the same thing....they just don't know yet, cause somehow following the science just means more changes and guesses!!!   

 

Love this music with all its ironies (example--JGB being church for many faithful despite the person leading the sermon---Was Jerry mocking Christianity with Sisters and Brothers, Gamora, I will be with thee, Palm Sunday, Waiting for a Mircle, We Bid you Goodnight..etc)   and truths, but it took decades, and I am sure more decades to find the ever changing meanings into something simplified, predictable(standardized).....There are times when you live in doubt!!!   

There are times when you get hit upon
Try hard but you cannot give
Other times you'd gladly part
With what you need to live
Don't waste the breath to save your face
When you have done your best
And even more is asked of you
Let fate decide the rest

 

Would you miracle a republican?   Would you miracle Anne Coulter?   I would definitely give Anne Coulter the miracle of life---if you know what I mean!!!

 

Is it called trolling when you bait?   maybe that's what they mean when you go trolling around the lake structure trying to catch a fish.       

 

Utopia is a world without controversy.  What did we get out of the controversy of the 60's?   Without it.... where would all of us be now? 

 

Don't ignore disagreement as the He's Gone you prefer to discuss would of never existed without controversy!!  Celebrating it rather than demonizing or running away from it does not bring about creation, innovation, or the God Damn Grateful Dead!!!!   

 

😍If it was not for difference I would of never hoped on any of these buses!!!