Forum MVP John A Posted January 6, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 The first release, announced some time ago, is 4/2/73 at Boston Garden. Hard to complain about a '73 release under any circumstances. #2 in the 2017 series will be 12-7-71, with most of 12-6 included in both filler and on the 2017 Bonus Disc. These are Pigpen's first shows since August '71. David Lemieux has opined that the Smokestack Lightnin' from 12-7 is the greatest version ever. Upon initial investigation (fancy way of saying I cued it up last night) there is little evidence to dispute him! That said, does anyone have a raw late 60s version that needs to be thrown into the discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP bs69 Posted January 6, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 I like 6-6-69 a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advisory Board Dr. Barry Posted January 6, 2017 Advisory Board Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 It appears that Pigpen Smokestack was performed only 17 times. First on 11/19/66. Last on 3/25/72. Only once in 1966. Once in 1967. Once in 1968. 1969 had 4 performances, 3 of which had it as the set opener. 1970 had 4 performances, 2 of which were set openers. 1971 had 5 performances. 1972 had the last Pigpen Smokestack. More than 12 years later on 10/9/84 it was brought back into rotation and played every year since then except in 1995. It was played 45 times between 1984 and 1994. 26 of those times it came out of Truckin'. Dr. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP John A Posted January 6, 2017 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 For the purpose of this discussion, Weir Smokestacks don't count. The same would be true of course for a similar discussion of Lovelight or Good Lovin'. That said, I was riveted at Hartford 4-5-88 with Jerry's non-stop finger work. Now that's a tight Smokestack. And if we're talking transitions, the "->" between Truckin' and Smokestack at Deer Creek 7-15-89 is titanic. I'm surprised there are so few documented Pigpen Smokestacks. I will check out the 6-6-69 version pronto... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP robeatondso Posted January 6, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Glad to see the tapes I recovered and restored are finally seeing the light of day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic81 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 I read that article rob about all the work you did on those tapes, thank you. Daves picks and the Betty boards that just came out. They sound awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP acududeman Posted January 7, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Glad to see the tapes I recovered and restored are finally seeing the light of day! Thank you for your efforts, Rob! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP John A Posted January 7, 2017 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 I like 6-6-69 a lot Wow that's a big one alright. I especially like that little syncopation bit at the conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP John A Posted January 7, 2017 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 And if we're talking transitions, the "->" between Truckin' and Smokestack at Deer Creek 7-15-89 is titanic. I also revisited this little 1989 power gem. Truckin truly does dump into Smokestack in epic fashion. Sadly the board tape I have is paper thin. No Phil to really speak of. It's time like this that one needs an EQ, but the damage was already done. I don't have an aud tape of this, but something must exist that's more satisfying than the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP PoetryGirl Posted February 3, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Wow - is there a better Eyes than 4/2/73? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tide Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 4 hours ago, PoetryGirl said: Wow - is there a better Eyes than 4/2/73? One of my favorites also, amazing from the entire band. Had mentioned in the now listening board a while back. Even with a bit of botched lyrics Song #29 on the night. Love 73 shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP John A Posted February 3, 2017 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 15 hours ago, PoetryGirl said: Wow - is there a better Eyes than 4/2/73? Maybe not. That whole 3rd disc is pure gold. Great release. Off topic, but the folks at jerrygarcia.com have just announced the next installment of the Garcia Live series. It's from the Fall '91 tour - 11/23 in Milwaukee. Should be solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted February 3, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, John A said: Off topic, but the folks at jerrygarcia.com have just announced the next installment of the Garcia Live series. It's from the Fall '91 tour - 11/23 in Milwaukee. Should be solid. It was solid to these ears - what a Birthday present that show was! Leaps and bounds above the Rosemont the prior evening. I've heard the grest Lay Down Sally but I'm really excited about That Lucky Old Sun! I don't know if it'll come off On the recording, but I remember it being transcendental ! Thanks for the heads up ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP PoetryGirl Posted February 3, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 I can hear those keyboards from that era of Lucky Ole Sun in my head right now. It'll lift you off the ground an inch or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Ammagamalin Crew Posted February 5, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 We were there, snowy night, breadbox sticks out in my memory. Lay down was rockin' Be glad to revisit. Lucky old sun was epic, however I think there were some other jems. Didn't tape this one, was just going for the show. Been listening to the Jerry Band release of Sophie's place from 1976 Palo alto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP PoetryGirl Posted February 5, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 The GSET jam is rocking out ! Jerry's finger work is phenomenal as any- bright and funky and shooting for the stars- IMHO. The Good Doctor says this will cure what ails ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted February 5, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 59 minutes ago, PoetryGirl said: The GSET jam is rocking out ! Jerry's finger work is phenomenal as any- bright and funky and shooting for the stars- IMHO. The Good Doctor says this will cure what ails ya! Gotta give it a listen! Let's see if it topples my all time fave http://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1972/8/21/greatest-story-ever-told Sorry to make this a Now Listening thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP PoetryGirl Posted February 6, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 On 2/5/2017 at 0:37 PM, Tea for Texas said: Gotta give it a listen! Let's see if it topples my all time fave http://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1972/8/21/greatest-story-ever-told Sorry to make this a Now Listening thread I listened to them both together. There was only one copy of the 1972 show and it was a little hard to hear Jerry. Maybe GSET for the 8/21/72 was a drummer's choice as they do the lead in and then Phil starts thumping away! In the 1973, Phil begins the song unaccompanied. Do you think Donna tried to mimic Janis J in her delivery then ? It struck me maybe she was so inspired. There is a lot more piano and lead guitar interplay than in 1973 show version; 2 Apr 73 Jerry jams in out and THEN throws it into 5th gear - his fingers must have been dancing on the strings!! I am still partial to 73 I think because of what I hear Jerry lay down. Keith really played nicely in your fav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP cm_hayden Posted February 7, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 I've reached the point where I wonder, how much more Grateful Dead shit do I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP John A Posted February 7, 2017 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 11 hours ago, cm_hayden said: I've reached the point where I wonder, how much more Grateful Dead shit do I need. I think having every note Garcia ever played available at your fingertips is just about the right amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP bs69 Posted February 7, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 That's the great thing about this day and age, don't have to go digging under the seats of the car to find that missing tape that you just have to listen to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted February 7, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 1 hour ago, bs69 said: That's the great thing about this day and age, don't have to go digging under the seats of the car to find that missing tape that you just have to listen to Now you just need to look for that missing flash drive under the seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP cm_hayden Posted February 7, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 John A, I've realized that there's only 24 hours in a day, finite available time. There's only two or three hours of listening time/day, if that,. Let's do the math, sleep 6-7 hours, work 8 hrs., travel time 2 hrs., grooming/biological functions 1 hr., eating 1-2 hrs., Torah studies 1 hr., and Misc. 1 hr.. We're all time's bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP cm_hayden Posted February 7, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 You know what's really fucked up, I got a number of cd's and I'm looking for a new car and 2017's don't have cd players. When am I going to find the time to transfer to a drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted February 9, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 On 2/7/2017 at 3:49 PM, cm_hayden said: You know what's really fucked up, I got a number of cd's and I'm looking for a new car and 2017's don't have cd players. When am I going to find the time to transfer to a drive? No need to transfer. Just download a huge group. Etree has tons of show groupings like all 76 soundboards etc. I personally just got all the 76's on a drive and have been delving in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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