Forum MVP John A Posted October 10, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 I hadn't seen this before. Good conversation, with some reverence for Garcia et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducats Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 quirky songwriter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted October 11, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 That's about as much a compliment that a true jazz guy could give the dead. If anyone calls the dead a jazz band, it seems like the pure jazz guys may take offense because the dead is how they look at jazz. The dead's style would be an abomination to a purist, but if the dead played traditional jazz, then we wouldn't be talking on this forum today. After re-reading that, it may make no sense. But describing the dead is maybe the most herculean task on the planet. A scientist can describe the theory of relativity better than a deadhead can descibe in words the music of the dead. Maybe music in itself isn't easily describable, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducats Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 I was being my usual difficult self and commenting on the fact that he called the fat man a quirky songwriter - I guess you don't have to write any songs to be a song writer in his eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted October 11, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Well the songs do say hunter/Garcia so maybe he thought Jerry wrote lyrics too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP John A Posted October 12, 2016 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Maybe he was referring to the melodies as "quirky" and fully understands Garcia didn't write the lyrics. I guess you'd have to ask him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducats Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 I will next time I speak with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP 2muchfun Posted October 13, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 That's about as much a compliment that a true jazz guy could give the dead. If anyone calls the dead a jazz band, it seems like the pure jazz guys may take offense because the dead is how they look at jazz. The dead's style would be an abomination to a purist, but if the dead played traditional jazz, then we wouldn't be talking on this forum today. After re-reading that, it may make no sense. But describing the dead is maybe the most herculean task on the planet. A scientist can describe the theory of relativity better than a deadhead can descibe in words the music of the dead. Maybe music in itself isn't easily describable, period. As the man in the vid said..."There is no single idiom that can describe the Dead" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emergency crew Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 The primary greatness of the Dead is how they were inspired to transmogrify the ethos of jazz improv into a psychelelic rock format. That was a very big deal. Jazz improv is fine, but it ain't rock. Rock is fine, but it ain't jazz. The Dead brilliantly created a new genre: rock jam band. which was a world-changing phenomenon. To be able to truly improvise yet stay coherent at the same time, is an extremely rare talent. No rock musicians, ever, could atomize and rebuild a song, or flow from one song to another, the way the Dead could 1968-1974. Truly remarkable. Unequalled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP 2muchfun Posted February 9, 2017 Forum MVP Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Totally agree the genre is "jam band" aka "Grateful Dead music" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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