Forum MVP found Posted May 31, 2013 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Might as well Minglewood Candyman Tom thumb Bucket Push comes to shove Hey pocky way All over now To lay me down Music never stopped Cats Estimated Touch of grey Sailor Saint Drums space Mr fantasy Need a miracle Standing on the moon Throwing stones Let it rock Golden rd Fun show. Bon voyage Kevin. It was certainly fun while it lasted more thoughts to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Truckin Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 A great way to honor bass bomber Kevin Rosen's time with the band would be to call for a moratorium on elective setlists. They are sorely lacking in cohesiveness and are occasionally painful. Plus two in a row at Boston HOB - how unfair. Okay, I said it - flame away, Electivistas! Life is too short for Standing on the Moon and Dear Mr. Fantasy. More Eyes, St. Stephen, China Rider, please. I love this band (last night my 50th show). Lisa killed on Music Never, and Jeff's axe, while quiet in Set 1, tore up Let It Rock finale. Love you DSO! Pre-veal the Era! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJed Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I'll second that emotion and sentiment so well expressed by Still Truckin' above! "Only" my 49th show but I am yet to tire of what got me so deadicated to DSO: Amazing RE-CREATIONS of Grateful Dead concerts. That's still what this fan wants to hear and experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP chuckvegas Posted May 31, 2013 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 How about a tour recreating classic DSO electives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 How about a tour recreating classic DSO electives? By Furthur!....Hee..Hee.. Hee..Good one Chuck! I wonder if that is true..Electives back to back at the same venue..If so that is extremely unusual.. I'm a total recreation guy myself (much prefer them) but think you guys are swimming upstream here...think the band is trending towards increasing the electives as opposed to downsizing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrapin_Sedation Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Show can be heard here http://www.ustream.tv/channel/zzzstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurbDad Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I would just say that a big part of the fun going to see the Dead for me and my friends, and I'm sure for many of you, was guessing songs and the complete, albeit ridiculous, sense of pride that came from calling a chestnut before your buddies. One of my best was calling Dupree at the Knickerbocker. See, still an elitist set snob reveling in old victories. However, I have to concede that their setlists could sometimes get formulaic to the point of monotonous. How many Drums, Space, Miracle, Stella, Throwin Stones, Not Fade, Black Muddy encores did we get in the late 80s/90s. Part of the fun of DSO, in a addition to being top notch musicians at the height of their skills, is they can keep you guessing if it is a re-creation or original and once you realize you have an original the possibilities are endless. I like the combo and I like not knowing. As far as life being too short to hear Standing on the Moon or Dear Mr. Fantasy, I respectfully disagree. Standing became my favorite Jerry ballad especially toward the end of his life. When he would get to " a lovely view of heaven but I'd rather be with you" and repeat the "be with you refrain" it still gives me chills. When you read some of the biographies about Jerry the lyric becomes much more poignant. He was a bit of a reluctant band leader, often a prisoner of his fame and definitely had no interest in being some kind of social leader or spoksperson. So when he sings, or actually practically cries, "I'd rather be with you", I hear a guy saying he'd rather just be a guy hanging out with the rest of us in relative obscurity instead of the bearing the mantle of forced leader of the hippies with the full weight of responsibilty and stardom that came with it, in addition to responsibility of providing a livelihood to the massive Grateful Dead family and entourage. I also recommend listening to a couple of 1994 covers of Last Time. When he sings "Too much pain and too much sorrow...", well it might just buckle your knees. I was at Madison Square Garden for 10/15/94 and they actually played Last Time into Standing, so obviously I am admittedly extremely biased. As for Fantasy, love it by the Dead and love it by DSO. Probably my favorite Brent vocal after Hey Pocky and with DSO it gives Rob a chance to sing and wail on the organ. Be well everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Teacher Matt Posted May 31, 2013 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Opinions are like a beating heart.... we all got one .... and then when the beating stops so does the opinions .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted May 31, 2013 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 A great way to honor bass bomber Kevin Rosen's time with the band would be to call for a moratorium on elective setlists. They are sorely lacking in cohesiveness and are occasionally painful. Plus two in a row at Boston HOB - how unfair. Okay, I said it - flame away, Electivistas! Life is too short for Standing on the Moon and Dear Mr. Fantasy. More Eyes, St. Stephen, China Rider, please. I love this band (last night my 50th show). Lisa killed on Music Never, and Jeff's axe, while quiet in Set 1, tore up Let It Rock finale. Love you DSO! Pre-veal the Era! 2 electives in a row - how unfair? Oh the humanity.... “I love what I love and I want it that way” I guess, right? No flames from me, just an opinion. Congrats on your 50th show BTW. I like recreations a ton too but Original Recipes are where it’s at for me. I have yet to hear these painful transitions you speak of but everyone hears what they want to. When your recreation bubble was burst it’s possible that this palpable disappointment over the original colored your perception of how songs were being played. Just a thought. While I often like trying to figure out a recreation, I can usually pin it down in the 1st set. The result is me knowing what they’re gonna play before they play it which SOMETIMES seems to take just a little of the magic away for me. The second nite of Jubilee started Help > Slip and I was trying to figure out of it was gonna be a ’76 recreation or not. As soon as they went into Stanger, I was totally geeked that I could stop my over-analysis and just get even more lost in what was to come. Also, if there was anyone who was disappointed with the elective on the 3rd nite of the Jubilee, I sure do feel sorry for him/her. Tomato/Tomato I guess. As long as DSO is playing, its hard for me to be disappointed about what they do and how they do it. Such a long, long time to be gone…….and a short time to be THERE! Thanks for your honesty though - I respect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP chuckvegas Posted May 31, 2013 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Make mine originals with a TN tour on the side. (I know why that last isn't feasible, but a guy can dream.) To go, please. Perhaps the time is right for another poll on the subject. I believe it has been a while, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oysterhead Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 If DSO plays it I don't give a shit ...recreation or not..I too love to play the guessing game ..either way I love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherry Garcia Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Early on, I always went to a DSO show with a particular year that I wanted them to recreate. After a while, once you've caught your cherished '77s or '89s or whatever you like, it CAN BE predictable. I can't quickly tell you the difference between the '72 show i saw them do in 2012 and the '72 show I saw them do in 2010. But I can sure as hell differentiate from most if not all of the electives I've seen. There is always something unique and memorable about them from a 'setlist on paper' standpoint. Of course, figuring out early in the first set that you are about to witness an elective doesn't guarantee a great show just the same as identifying a '76 early on doesn't guarantee a great show. Basically the endless possibilities of an elective set are what I've come to prefer. It gives you, the show goer, a chance to dream big, never give up, and you may get your favorite song by the end of the night no matter what! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Dead duck Posted May 31, 2013 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I came for the recreations and have grown to love originals. The level of excitement i get when dso busts out a "jerry band " tune is extremely high. To each their own but i agree with above, if dso's playin, im in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhbones Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I have seen DSO about a dozen or so times and have all either been originals or a recreation from 70 - 76. I am ok with both and recently enjoyed the JGB tunes like Cats, After Midnight, I'll Take a Melody and was lucky to catch an If I had the world to give by Jeff. Going tomorrow night to Hampton Beach and just feel that it will be an original... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Teacher Matt Posted May 31, 2013 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I am throwing out a "Box of Rain" opener tomorrow in Hampton ... and maybe "The Weight" again to close .... Kevin gets to sing the opener in his last show for DSO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurbDad Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I'm gonna guess one of my all time favorite shows: Hartford Civic Center, Hartford, CT (5/10/80)New Minglewood BluesPeggy-OMexicali BluesEl PasoAltheaPassengerFar From MeLost SailorSaint of CircumstanceDealChina Cat SunflowerI Know You RiderFeel Like a StrangerComes a TimeEstimated ProphetHe's GoneUncle John's BanddrumsNot Fade AwaySugar MagnoliaAlabama GetawayOne More Saturday Night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted May 31, 2013 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I am throwing out a "Box of Rain" opener tomorrow in Hampton ... and maybe "The Weight" again to close .... Kevin gets to sing the opener in his last show for DSO I doubt it. I almost pulled the trigger to fly back for this. I'm thinking more psychedelic in style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Dead duck Posted May 31, 2013 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 An "other one" that will blow the place up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Mango Posted May 31, 2013 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 For what it's worth, they said that last night would be last full band show with Kevin. I love electives but last night's set bored me a bit. Seemed like a real crowd pleasure for the Bostonians... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted May 31, 2013 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 The last two shows may or may not have Lisa. I do believe that Boston was the last show with full band and crew. I can't say for certain who will be missing the others nights. Expect psychedelic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP chuckvegas Posted May 31, 2013 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Tom Thumb Blues. Dear Mr. Fantasy. SOTM. Bored, really? A couple of others I'll spot you, but really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Truckin Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I'm gonna guess one of my all time favorite shows: Hartford Civic Center, Hartford, CT (5/10/80) Sorry Burb, it'll be a one drummer show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Truckin Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Some great comments here and thanks for the ecumenical vibe. @CV- I would actually totally enjoy recreations of the best of the electives -- I've certainly seen some five star electives -- 7/17/04-Hampton Casino and 11/20/09-Calvin, Noho come to mind. Lots of bands cover dead tunes. DSO recreates dead shows - that unique niche, plus the outstanding musicianship, make me a devoted fan. The experience of returning to the shows I originally saw that other band play makes me a maniacal fan. Re-creations also pay homage to the Dead's deep talent at flow, counterpoint and segue, which is sometimes lost in an elective. I know electives are fun for the band and I respect that. G-D knows we need to keep our minstrels happy and sane. Plus lots of you crazy brothers and sisters seem to really like electives, and I don't want to harsh anyone's mellow. That is why I think the best solution to this bifurcating fanbase is to preveal the era! Easy enough to set up a place on the website where we can find out if an upcoming show is pre-Donna, Donna, post-Donna, or elective. It could be on some obscure page so you won't accidentally discover the preveal if you don't want to. I don't usually drive more than a couple hours to catch a show, but I'd double that if I knew a 60's show was on tap. It's hard to teach an old dawg new shit. I'll never get used to the Dead's late era song choices. Liberty, Broken Arrow, Hey Jude, Day Job, and too many Dylan covers just grated on me. Of course I also have friends who completely lost interest after Pigpen died -- I can't convince them that Eyes, H>S>F, and Estimated are the real deal. I know Jer loved his sad songs, but he clearly didn't think I should just because he did. Thank you DSO for fifty fine shows - looking forward to fifty more (which would nicely eclipse my Dead show count). Thanks for the bombs, Kevin - and know you are a mensch. Preveal the Era! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP John A Posted May 31, 2013 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 A great way to honor bass bomber Kevin Rosen's time with the band would be to call for a moratorium on elective setlists....Life is too short for Standing on the Moon and Dear Mr. Fantasy. More Eyes, St. Stephen, China Rider, please. Because if they just did recreations you'd never have to hear Standing or Fantasy?? And there would be more Stephen's? Hmmm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted May 31, 2013 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I was a little confused myself by that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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