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Just wanted to get some perspective from you guys/gals.   2nd night Jubilee, when China Doll was being played-----it got to a point that I really heard more people talking than I could hear the music, and i was right at the sound board by that time.

 

Not politely, I turned ----looked towards many of the talkers, and yelled at them "to shut the fuck up", that " I could here their conversations better than the music".

 

It actually worked for a little while, and no one told me to fuck off---suprisingly. 

 

Felt bad afterwards, like "who the fuck are you to tell people" what to do.   Still-----

 

I know I have already been called a Dick on forums, and there is some truth there, but would many of you think I was a dickhead for telling, or rather yelling at people to shut up cause they were talking to loud during the music?

 

Bobby can get away with it-----but me?

 

Is that bad vibe stuff I am putting out?  

 

Not looking for support, but rather your honest opinion:}!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

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I would have moved tbh but I know where you are coming from. We had a guy come to our campsite and WOULD NOT SHUT UP, during the same time actually. We couldn't even a word in edgewise. It was anything interesting I would have been more than happy to listen to both but please don't come to my campsite and preach about God, I had my fill the first 18 years of my life. Not only that but if you're preaching please don't be rude and ignore the fact that others are trying to talk to you...the downside to people being on drugs.

 

There were other times when I had to shut myself up and listen to the music :)

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But yea, if I was there and saw you do that I'd probably laugh and say "Glad someone said it". It's gotta be done though. People are there to listen to music, some are there to camp and indulge. It's important for people to understand the former part of that statement and be respectful. Not just to the fans but to the band members that came there to play for you.

 

I had a guy pass out in front of me during the YMSB set to the left of the stage. I saw him stumble so I grabbed him ribcage and steadied him, after that he passed out so I bear hugged him with another guy. That was way worse than people talking. I went right back to camp after that to drink water  :blink:

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A cocktail party broke out during the beginning of Death Don't and I eventually had to move.  They wanted nothing to harsh their happy vibe and started yapping about some inane crap so they didn't have to 'deal' with the song.  A few of us went "SSSSHHHHHHH!"  One guy looked at me and gave me a crying face and then started laughing.  Mouthbreather. 

 

Yeah, I'm not much of a shit-stirrer but to each their own.  I thought it....Sun did it :) 

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Yeah you definately take some bad with all yhe good. I myself got lucky enough to camp with the kids right between a nitrous tent and a group of people having a "hack til u puke after every hit u take all weekend" contest. It was like they forgot to put water in their bong and still used it all weekend. If i said i heard someone actually puke from coughing 10 times i wouldnt be exaggerating. I just explained that these weekends are about freedoms. We use our freedom to camp spend time with good people and listen to great music. Others use theirs to run around shouting obscenities, using or selling drugs and stealing anything thats not safely locked up. Why go to the stage just to try to yell over the music abouts how f-ed you are right now or last night. Plenty of places to discuss whatever where you wouldnt have to yell. Not trying to be preachy, and overall i still had a blast. But the parking lot bandits i can do without.

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I still want to make shirts that read "shut up and dance",  but only the quiet dancers would actually read it anyhow.  I just try to find good dancing space with good people.  Fun dancing with you Sun

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If I can't tune them out, I move. I'm non-confrontational, so this method works best for me. I figure the more they talk, the drunker they probably are. I don't mix well with aggressive drunk

 

Talkers aside, I would like to have a word with the thief that made away with our 5lb. bag of peanut M&M's...... son of a..... funny how trusting we are at events like this, and we are about 99% correct in doing this. This was our 5th Gratefulfest/Jubilee in a row and have always left all of our shit out while going to the stage, etc. and have never had anything stolen. Never really thought about it, but as we were leaving I thought "maybe I should put that bag of M&M's away" - I mean they will evoke a level of temptation that can be hard to resist..... once again, should've listened to my gut.

 

And that was the worst thing that happened all weekend - I'd call that one helluva successful time for us! Already can't wait til the next one.  

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I got to say that there was a group of folks with these flags that said team fun in the middle of the crowd waving them all thru the friday night show .I went up to them a few times and asked if they would mind stepping to the side alittle becouse there were4 video cameras running ,they would for alittle while then would move back into the middle ,well on the 2nd day we asked the ladies to go up and say some thing in which they listened also for alittle while ,I then went up and tried to reason with them ,talked real kind and they were real polite and were cool about it and really tried to stay to the sides for the remander of the shows ,there were a lot of folks in the back kind of bitching about these flags ,I just don t get it how or why some one would wave a flag all freakin night  in the middle of a show...any of those team fun people on the foriums?

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No, Sun, I don't think it is, if previous hints and kind tactics haven't worked. Relocating a little is probably the best policy but isn't always practical. Fortunately we weren't plagued with a lot of those irritants.

 

Steve, I saw the flag people too. That seemed like a lot of work. Our "team fun" didn't feel the need to advertise.

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I was in the zone and hardly noticed any distractions. We were locked in for sure....wish I could have met some of you forum folk there..

In general though I've never had much luck quieting people with verbal confrontations. Some nights I move around a bunch trying to find a sweet spot. I know that if I personally saw someone dancing passionately to some music that I wouldn't stand around them and talk over the music. So that works sometimes....

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Yeah you definitely take some bad with all the good. I myself got lucky enough to camp with the kids right between a nitrous tent and a group of people having a "hack til u puke after every hit u take all weekend" contest. It was like they forgot to put water in their bong and still used it all weekend. 

 

No joke, and during the show. I was trying to enjoy the music from camp and was interrupted by short inhalations of air. At least they weren't selling it re: people weren't flocking to that area.

 

Next time we should have a designated area where some of us forum goers could meet, say near the showers or something like that. Then we could be a posse of people telling others to behave and enjoy the show. That is after all why we all went, right?

 

The things I brought I gave away for free, this isn't a profit game but instead a game of spreading love :)

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They were selling it. A small crowd of "quality" people gathered around it most of the time. "Forum membership cards" and maybe a roped off section of the field would be choice. Oh well I'm sure it could have been worse. No rain, no interrupted sets, no condemned stage. Long live the jubilee.

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Selling nitrous at the Jubilee huh? Well if I was there and would have seen it, I would have snapped that fucking valve in a New York minute, like I did one other time when some wooks were slinging it right next to the bus. Hippie crack, bad for the scene. Can't stand it or the scumbags that sell it.

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Didn't notice I guess. I've seen worse at Hookahville.

 

I don't get why people want gas. It's really not worth it unless you get like 35 balloons :D Shouldn't be at a fest though, if you're gunna do it then go in the woods please and 300 feet from a campfire. Dangerous having a potential bomb near your campsite.

 

MDMA is hippy crack imo. That stuff will burn the myelin off your brain eventually. At least we didn't see any H or C at this event, that's when I'm looking for a boy in blue :\

Maybe we could get some freaky hats to make us stand out :-p

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I have never viewed this as much of a problem at an outdoor show such as this. If you are beyond the Pale of the actual viewing area, you cannot expect people to be quiet. Within the viewing area, I try to move around to find a good spot. This is totally different from a packed indoor show with limited options for movement.

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I have a lot to say on this subject.  I have been none too kind asking people to quiet down in the past.  I have had varying results, but the overall conclusion is talkers gonna talk and dancers gonna dance.  I will chime back in later.  Don't get me started on the strangers on my rug.  It may be rude to tell a talker to shut up, but I know it is rude to talk during a performance, especially if it interferes with the enjoyment of the show by others.  What can ya do? They just keep on talking.

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A good friend of mine says to wear a tank top, hold your arms up high and dance real close to the talkers....  not many like to visit a flailer's

pity city    :rofl:

 

I do this.  I spread my wings a mile long, and I spin faster than professional ice skaters!!!      It does not always work.    My frustration in yelling at people to shut up was a culmination of several experiences.

 

1st.   I was spinning and some kid out of no where locks arms with me, and starts doing the docie doe..  I tried to free myself, but he literally locked up.   Its not fun for me.  I enjoy dancing with others, but not drunk kids that think they are having fun and get that close.  Not cool.

 

2nd.  Some chick is on a cell phone?  What?  , But I laughed at her, cause she was talking over the music and people.   "What the fuck, your on your cell phone sweetie?"   She stood right in the middle of the section I was dacning in.   Her little big hippy male friend finally found her, and they both stood right in the middle where I was dancing.

 

I use up a lot of space, but share it with other dancers-------they would not move, so I danced circles around them!!   Literally, and made it obvious for everyone to see!!  They were my fire ring, and I was a spirtual indian dancing to my legends:}!!!     I am confident to say I can dance circles around some, and proved it to all who saw:}    For me that is a kind tactic!!

 

Finally got frustrated during China Doll.  That song is so special, and so gentle.  It  builds up to a overwhelming vocal extreme, and to really enjoy and feed from that power, you got to hear it in all its glory.  

 

Yea---I can move to sweet spots, and I did.    People in VIP stage area, were ALL kind of enough after first night to give me good dance room!!    And the sound near the hill and Porta potties Barraco side was good, with plenty of room.  Just a lot of children playing, which I am super careful about!!!   The white pvc cable covers took out a lot of people, and that is where I was first night, near the sound board. 

 

At times though, you get very comfortable where you are dancing--- for many reasons, and it sucks to have to move to enjoy the music that others are taking for  granted.  

 

I even disagree with the fire dancers.  They encourage people to not dance for themselves, and watch others.  I know I am sounding like an elitiest snob.   oh well----perhaps......I just love the magic so much.

 

-----It is really nice to see all the post Jubilee energy on the boards!!!!   

 

JamminOnthe1-----I have always said, and many agree----get a group of dancers in a area, and we are power in numbers.  People tend to stay away!!!!!  

 

Sudds94--------That is why I do not wear deodarant to shows.  I do try the stink method!!!!

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I think its best just to move on and find a new space ,,,, no need for any ruckus ,,,, always be a part of team fun , not the crazy annoying flag waving team fun ,,,, be a part of  the team fun that don't cause any stupid shit and has a damn good time ...

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