Advisory Board Herdygerdy Posted March 23, 2012 Advisory Board Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 So... I've had "The Grateful Dead Bible" for a while, and i'm now going through the Jerry Garcia Band section, cause it's a complete clusterfuck of a mess (organization wise) and there are multiple copies of the same show... there's an audience (.aud.) version, a soundboard (.sbd.) version, and something called a .fob... anyone know what the hell that means?? I've racked my brain (didn't take to long), and came up with nothing... help? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP found Posted March 23, 2012 Forum MVP Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I believe it is front of board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advisory Board Herdygerdy Posted March 23, 2012 Author Advisory Board Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I believe it is front of board I actually thought of that, but whats the difference between 'Front of Board' and 'Audience'?? Usually the tapers are in front (next to, or behind) of the soundboard anyway.. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP GratefulFred Posted March 23, 2012 Forum MVP Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Yes, it's Front Of Board. Tapers weren't always afforded the luxury of setting up there. Once it was generally accepted that tapers would tape, a special taping section was set up for them, but it wasn't always the coveted FOB section. But it seems pretty much standard anymore, seeing as how it is often, of course, the best place for sound. (And soundmen will occasionally allow folks to patch in to the SB.) There were issue at (other bands' concerts) where drunken tapers had accidentally unplugged SB equipment, and so FOB is often discouraged by other bands. I am going by what's in my brain, and some facts may be slightly inaccurate, and I am crap with dates, but I do know that there is pretty much a timeline as to the progression of taping/allowing to tape/taping FOB/patching in. That's just one of the many things that made the GOGD what they were (are) to us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advisory Board Herdygerdy Posted March 23, 2012 Author Advisory Board Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Thanks, Fred!! And thanks to you too Found the Sound! NOW.. I am searching for a copy of Jerry doing "Magnificent Sanctuary Band".. can anyone email me that MP3??? Thanks a ton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michelle Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Good luck finding it live ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advisory Board Herdygerdy Posted March 23, 2012 Author Advisory Board Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Don't need a live version, just the studio if anyone has it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP John A Posted March 23, 2012 Forum MVP Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Once it was generally accepted that tapers would tape, a special taping section was set up for them, but it wasn't always the coveted FOB section. Actually, I don't believe there was a single instance when an officially sanctioned taper's section was front of board. That's an irony of the "taper's section". After its establishment (at BCT Fall '84) the quality of recordings got worse. Tapes became more ubiquitous certainly, but of poorer quality. And by the late 80s, the section was not only behind the board but often not directly behind it. At the Oakland Coliseum, for example, they had to leave the area of the floor behind the board for Bill Graham's volleyball games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP found Posted March 23, 2012 Forum MVP Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Herdy, You can use video2mp3.net to take the audio from the YouTube video and turn into an mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Vortex Posted March 23, 2012 Forum MVP Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I am not certain of this but this is how I would take it. FOB means front of house board. That means the patch was taken from the front of house mixing board. ...meaning the mix going to the audience. SBD means it was mixed on a soundboard but that doesn't necessarily mean it was the live sound going to the audience. It was mixed for the tape. Betty Boards are a perfect example. She mixed for the tape but not for the live audience. Dan mixed for the audience and sometimes these mixes are where the recordings you are referencing are from. We do the same thing. Our official releases are mixed for a recording not for the live audience and they are done from the stage monitor soundboard. Cotter also records a mix for himself from the front of house position. You have to remember he is not mixing for the tape. He is mixing for the audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advisory Board Herdygerdy Posted March 25, 2012 Author Advisory Board Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Herdy, You can use video2mp3.net to take the audio from the YouTube video and turn into an mp3 Thanks!! I am not certain of this but this is how I would take it. FOB means front of house board. That means the patch was taken from the front of house mixing board. ...meaning the mix going to the audience. SBD means it was mixed on a soundboard but that doesn't necessarily mean it was the live sound going to the audience. It was mixed for the tape. Betty Boards are a perfect example. She mixed for the tape but not for the live audience. Dan mixed for the audience and sometimes these mixes are where the recordings you are referencing are from. We do the same thing. Our official releases are mixed for a recording not for the live audience and they are done from the stage monitor soundboard. Cotter also records a mix for himself from the front of house position. You have to remember he is not mixing for the tape. He is mixing for the audience. Thanks, Dino!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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