Forum MVP New York Steve Posted October 14, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 I remember reading somewhere that a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. Thankfully most of the minds here are fuckin huge. Someone also said "I contain multitudes." I'm trying to reconcile all this. No easy answers yet. Easy Answers Lyrics By: Robert Hunter, Bob Weir Music By: Weir, Bralove, Wasserman, Welnick Promises made in the dark dissolve by light of day Easy answers Ain't no saying what will be, it's always been that way Only thing I know for sure, someone got to pay Easy answers Ain't no easy answers, is what I got to say Easy answers I don't wanna hear Ain't nobody cares C'mon let's go I don't wanna know I don't wanna know I don't wanna know I don't wanna know I don't wanna know Love is an easy word to say, roll's right off the tongue Easy answers Seems to crop up like a weed, in every song that's sung It always sounds so easy, the way it falls upon the ear Easy answers Plenty easy answers now, listen to me here Easy answersv Find 'em anywhere Easy answers Easy answers Easy answers Easy answers I don't wanna know I don't wanna know Shut your eyes and listen to the colours of your mind Easy answers Give yourself a breath of air, let your soul unwind Easy answers You don't have to say a word, you got dick to say 'Cause no-one ever said there's gonna be an easy way Easy answers Find them anywhere Easy answers Ain't nobody care Easy answers I don't wanna know Easy answers I don't wanna know Easy answers I don't wanna know I don't wanna know Promises made in the dark dissolve by light of day Easy answers Ain't no saying what we'll be, it's always been that way Only thing I know for sure, someone got to pay Easy answers Ain't no easy answers, that's all I got to say Easy answers Easy answers I don't wanna hear Easy answers Easy answers Ain't nobody there Easy answers Easy answers C'mon now, let's go I don't wanna know I don't wanna know I don't wanna know Easy answers Easy answers Feel alright Easy answers Easy answers Feel alright Easy answers Easy answers Played by Bob Weir with the Dead from 1993 and with Ratdog and Weir/Wasserman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Teacher Matt Posted October 14, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 I think you should put that emoticon after basically all of your posts Mr. Matt. I usually do .... but for this post I am taking a stand ... :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted October 14, 2011 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Easy Answers Lyrics By: Robert Hunter, Bob Weir Music By: Weir, Bralove, Wasserman, Welnick Promises made in the dark dissolve by light of day Easy answers Ain't no saying what will be, it's always been that way Only thing I know for sure, someone got to pay Easy answers Ain't no easy answers, is what I got to say Easy answers I don't wanna hear Ain't nobody cares C'mon let's go I don't wanna know I don't wanna know I don't wanna know I don't wanna know I don't wanna know Love is an easy word to say, roll's right off the tongue Easy answers Seems to crop up like a weed, in every song that's sung It always sounds so easy, the way it falls upon the ear Easy answers Plenty easy answers now, listen to me here Easy answersv Find 'em anywhere Easy answers Easy answers Easy answers Easy answers I don't wanna know I don't wanna know Shut your eyes and listen to the colours of your mind Easy answers Give yourself a breath of air, let your soul unwind Easy answers You don't have to say a word, you got dick to say 'Cause no-one ever said there's gonna be an easy way Easy answers Find them anywhere Easy answers Ain't nobody care Easy answers I don't wanna know Easy answers I don't wanna know Easy answers I don't wanna know I don't wanna know Promises made in the dark dissolve by light of day Easy answers Ain't no saying what we'll be, it's always been that way Only thing I know for sure, someone got to pay Easy answers Ain't no easy answers, that's all I got to say Easy answers Easy answers I don't wanna hear Easy answers Easy answers Ain't nobody there Easy answers Easy answers C'mon now, let's go I don't wanna know I don't wanna know I don't wanna know Easy answers Easy answers Feel alright Easy answers Easy answers Feel alright Easy answers Easy answers Played by Bob Weir with the Dead from 1993 and with Ratdog and Weir/Wasserman I love the grateful dead but this song is....is....flat out bad. Movie analogies: Ishtar bad. Best defense bad. Waterworld bad. Gigli bad. Showgirls Bad (teacher Matt will not agree). I didn't mean to turn this into a worst of thread but easy answers (while lyrically acceptable) comes off as really bad lounge music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Teacher Matt Posted October 14, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 I love the grateful dead but this song is....is....flat out bad. Movie analogies: Ishtar bad. Best defense bad. Waterworld bad. Gigli bad. Showgirls Bad (teacher Matt will not agree). I didn't mean to turn this into a worst of thread but easy answers (while lyrically acceptable) comes off as really bad lounge music. Showgirls.... yummy.... and I like anything Dustin Hoffman does in the realm of comedy.. .. check him out in "Wag the Dog" ...:"This is Nothing ... Piece of Cake" .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP chuckvegas Posted October 14, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 I usually do .... but for this post I am taking a stand ... :ph34r: Yep - the "duck and cover" emoticon. I treasure my director's cut of 'Hogirls.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sweet Jane Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I've always kept my mouth shut on a lot of these furthur threads, but I have to say it really bums me out to read these posts which are truly hypercritical about a man who has given us almost 50 years of music!!! He's over 60 years old and still on that stage....so what if he drops lyrics here and there? And you know what, if he has some off nights, thats OK too. Don't the good nights make up for it? Were you people this critical when Jerry was dropping lyrics and had off nights? There were many! Good lord willin', this band DSO will be playing 10 years from now. That will make Eaton 60 years old...say he starts dropping lyrics more often. Are you going to cut him up? I doubt it. I would imagine the folks here would be very compassionate and understanding and grateful he's on that stage, as you should! Its OK if you're not into furthur. Its OK to comment on their shows and say what like and don't like about it. But every human being deserves some compassion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP John A Posted October 15, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Don't the good nights make up for it? Yes. And there still are many. Were you people this critical when Jerry was dropping lyrics and had off nights? This is fundamentally different. Jerry was slowly losing grasp of his musical gifts in the last few years of his life. Bobby, while of course not getting any younger, just seems increasingly prone to off nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawdoc Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Dave, Sorry to seem like such a heat merchant. My love is with the music, It didn't sound too bad to me that night. I've never been impressed with live feeds. It was imho a good show. I guess you just had to be there. peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Forum MVP Dstone5553 Posted October 15, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I've always kept my mouth shut on a lot of these furthur threads, but I have to say it really bums me out to read these posts which are truly hypercritical about a man who has given us almost 50 years of music!!! He's over 60 years old and still on that stage....so what if he drops lyrics here and there? And you know what, if he has some off nights, thats OK too. Don't the good nights make up for it? Were you people this critical when Jerry was dropping lyrics and had off nights? There were many! The good nights do make up for it...that's the whole point of the way Bob plays and the way the GD played. The name of that live release was an appropriate one: W/out a Net. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't but when it worked, it could go places deeper and higher and further than the places bands went who didn't take those kind of chances...those kinds of risks. This isn't about missed lyrics. Here is a horribly shot youtube link going around from that Vegas night...you don't have to watch more than the first verse to get the gist of it. As bad as that came off, that's not AT ALL what I'm talking about. Missed lyrics from Weir don't bother me these days. He's allowed. Especially because of all the new material he's doing and because I know his style is to work stuff out on the road. That is part of Weir's M.O. and I love it. I always have. Even more importantly, it is my opinion there will come a time when he fuckin NAILS Like a Rolling Stone, either with this band or with another one. And it will be grand. I guess, the bottom line is that the feelings that were going on inside me when hearing some of his play (not the missed lyrics) from Vegas were feelings of worry. Basically, I was worried about him after listening to that show. I love that guy as a musician. I love the music he's made and the several hundreds of nights he's given his all on stage which I've been witness to have meant a lot to me. Some of those nights will live on in my heart for as long as I live on. Bob Weir had an interview in which he said something like it's cool for a musician to party as much as he/she wants but they HAVE to be ready to go on stage. He was telling the interviewer that this was the golden rule to his way of thinking---or something like that. It made so much sense reading those words because you can sense that responsibility in him when you see him a bunch, whether it's with the GD or his other bands. You can FEEL it. This is not the same kind of concern some felt after the Giant's show in the summer of 1995 after that Wharf Rat because that situation was one all it's own. And I get that maybe the way I verbalized my dismay could have come off as just somebody taking a shot at Bob Weir. What I was doing in my mind was sharing my genuine thoughts regarding my perspective of some of his play...the key being my perspective. And just because I may have thought something, doesn't mean anyone else has to agree, and it doesn't mean that thousands of folks didn't have the time of their life that night. And perspective IS a funny thing. I could have had a different one had I been inside that building. I think the majority of nights, Bob comes ready to play just as hard as he's always done. I've haven't seen tons of Furthur shows but I've seen enough (about 25) to see that first hand. I'll always be a huge Weir fan, BUT I'll always be honest about my perceptions of the music. And that means it won't always be rainbows and waterfalls. I also want to say that I think this discussion is a good one. I, for one, like it when people talk honestly on message boards as long as they are being respectful and the fact that some of us disagree is one of the good things about message boards, at least to my way of thinking. I couldn't imagine something as boring as everyone always agreeing on a message board. Honestly, I couldn't. And like I said, I DO get how my words could have been taken as being disrespectful and I'm totally cool with it if they were. It's the slippery side of this interweb message board thing we have here. Dave, Sorry to seem like such a heat merchant. My love is with the music, It didn't sound too bad to me that night. I've never been impressed with live feeds. It was imho a good show. I guess you just had to be there. peace. No worries. For reals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Run Mary Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 This isn't about missed lyrics. Here is a horribly shot youtube link going around from that Vegas night...you don't have to watch more than the first verse to get the gist of it. One of my favorite songs sung by one of my favorite singers in one of my favorite bands. Somewhat rocky start, nothing unforgivable, nothing scary. The fans are quite into it. The gist I get is that Bobby is still up on top and is getting used to a song he doesn't play that much. The whole idea is to watch more than the first verse, when he's warmed up and completely awesome. Wish I had been there. I'm still listening to it right now and I think he is killing it. But that's just another dispatch from my parallel universe :-). Just ended. Yee-ha Bobby! Love love love you! Seems the crowd does too.Thanks for the clip, I'm going to be listening to this all day. Addendum: After having listened to it about 20 times now, I'd have to say I've never heard him flub his lines so many times in one song before :-). Still loved it though and will be listening to it at least 20 more times. The audience is loving it, really excited, and so it's easy to see both Jawdoc's and Dstone5553's points of view. I'm with the audience, though: the flaws don't stop me from getting spiritually lifted. And I'm admiring the fact that it must be very distracting to Bobby to get it wrong, but each time he gets right back into high energy mode. Pro. I think the Vegas crowd may have found the solution: we'll just have to sing along the whole way when he gets into forgetful mode. But dang it, now I'll have to learn all the verses. I may have listened to it hundreds/thousands of times in my life, but I still couldn't give you the correct order of the verses by heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP New York Steve Posted October 15, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 My God, Bobby walks on water and is on every night! I will never disparage Phil or Bobby again! Bobby may read this thread and stop touring... Thing is, people, Jerr included, who choose to perform, will get critized by some... what happened to constructive criticism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP August West Posted October 15, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Hey man.....BOBBY FANS ARE PEOPLE TOO Stop picking on him Stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP chuckvegas Posted October 15, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Digging up my "I'm Bob Weir, bitch!" tee shirt now. I was at the Vegas show - gasp! Even more shocking, for only about the 20th time in almost 40 years of shows, I rode the rail the entire show. Right in front of JK, which is to say in close proximity to Bob. And I don't know about them, but I was stone cold sober and actually paying attention because that seemed important. And I had work the next day. Posting using a phone sucks so I will be brief. This is no last word on the topic but merely my impression: Bob did not seem horribly off. No confused staring, lurching, or untoward awkward moves. Far from it. Yes, there was the false start. But the audience laughed WITH him and the others on stage. Then as befits consummate professionals they picked up and moved on. I'm glad I was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbones Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Well.....Its a shame bobby is stuck in the other band section....But Happy Birthday Bob! It is incredible how he is still at it. NEVER STOP! NEVER STOP!!!! Its time to give thanks for Bob's life and understand we all have DSO to send us back home because of his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Teacher Matt Posted October 16, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Just to make what I was saying clear .... if you need to explained: 1. I will not give and never have given the review of a show if I was not at said show.... 2. and Bob Weir is 64 years old (as of today) .... so I am also not going to cut down an elder .... yet alone an elder who is doing something I admire, enjoy, respect, etc.. so I hope that clarifies my position on how this post has gone in terms of a certain viewpoint ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Dstone5553 Posted October 16, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Just to make what I was saying clear .... if you need to explained: 1. I will not give and never have given the review of a show if I was not at said show.... 2. and Bob Weir is 64 years old (as of today) .... so I am also not going to cut down an elder .... yet alone an elder who is doing something I admire, enjoy, respect, etc.. so I hope that clarifies my position on how this post has gone in terms of a certain viewpoint ... 1. Good for you buddy. That is very admirable. 2. Again...good for you! Crystal clear Mr. Matt. I'm awful proud of ya. Me thinks those Continuing Ed classes are paying off . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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