Forum MVP Dstone5553 Posted September 13, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 I would also like to say something about the Bears... I've been a huge critic of Lovie Smith for a long time. It's been really hard to watch him seemingly single handedly take a SB team and ruin it but it's been even more difficult watching his style of defense on third downs, especially for someone like me who grew up watching Buddy Ryan mold the greatest defense in the NFL history. His entire cover two scheme completely relies on the front four getting pressure on the QB. Buddy Ryan and both of his sons basically believe in doing whatever you have to do in order to get pressure on the QB on those big third downs. If the front 4 are doing that then fine...if you have to send 5 then so be it..if it takes sending 6 then that's what they will do and so on. Lovie doesn't think this way and that is the reason I think we've been unable to win the big ones, because he's been unwilling to send extra people on those big third downs and any good QB that has enough time on 3rd down will be able to find someone open in a zone coverage and Lovie only plays that zone on 3rd downs. It's been that simple for Chicago in my mind. BUT...this year we have a what seems like new defensive line with Henry Melton who played like a light switch went on and a free agent Okoye who along with Julious Peppers showed the rest of the NFL that they could be a formidable unit. I know NOTHING about those two but they and that line looked REALLY good for the first time in years for the Bears. And if that proves to be the case for the next months, then Lovie will finally have a unit that can win that big one against a great QB and we could actually do something (I know it's only week one...but what happened with that line last week for Chi was big news for folks like myself). Most people think it's all about our offensive line and Cutler and while our offensive line is hugely important for our offense and they also played pretty damn good, what's just as important is our defensive line, at least in my opinion. This is the first time, even including our SB year with Smith, that I've thought we could win something big. (Like I said it's only week one but it's still pretty nice to believe that.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP acududeman Posted September 14, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 I would also like to say something about the Bears... I've been a huge critic of Lovie Smith for a long time. It's been really hard to watch him seemingly single handedly take a SB team and ruin it but it's been even more difficult watching his style of defense on third downs, especially for someone like me who grew up watching Buddy Ryan mold the greatest defense in the NFL history. His entire cover two scheme completely relies on the front four getting pressure on the QB. Buddy Ryan and both of his sons basically believe in doing whatever you have to do in order to get pressure on the QB on those big third downs. If the front 4 are doing that then fine...if you have to send 5 then so be it..if it takes sending 6 then that's what they will do and so on. Lovie doesn't think this way and that is the reason I think we've been unable to win the big ones, because he's been unwilling to send extra people on those big third downs and any good QB that has enough time on 3rd down will be able to find someone open in a zone coverage and Lovie only plays that zone on 3rd downs. It's been that simple for Chicago in my mind. BUT...this year we have a new defensive line and there are people like Henry Melton and a guy whose name is Okoye who, last week, along with Julious Peppers showed the rest of the NFL that they could be a formidable unit. I know NOTHING about those two but they and that line looked REALLY good for the first time in years for the Bears. And if that proves to be the case for the next months, then Lovie will finally have a unit that can win that big one against a great QB and we could actually do something (I know it's only week one...but what happened with that line last week for Chi was big news for folks like myself). Most people think it's all about our offensive line and Cutler and while our offensive line is hugely important for our offense and they also played pretty damn good, what's just as important is our defensive line, at least in my opinion. This is the first time, even including our SB year with Smith, that I've thought we could win something big. (Like I said it's only week one but it's still pretty nice to believe that.) Dave, what is your take on Cutler? Being a Vanderbilt grad, I've enjoyed following his career. He's certainly had his ups and downs. I think the jury is still out for me as to whether or not I think he is a great QB. reid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Dstone5553 Posted September 14, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Dave, what is your take on Cutler? Being a Vanderbilt grad, I've enjoyed following his career. He's certainly had his ups and downs. I think the jury is still out for me as to whether or not I think he is a great QB. reid. Cutler obviously has all the talent in the world but he doesn't seem to have the mental skills a great QB needs to have. The vision and the decision making that makes a QB great. What I saw last year, he just seems to make the wrong decisions way too often. I have no idea about his work ethic or anything like that...he's super private and has gotten himself in a good deal of trouble with the media and the fans because he seems to be the rare player who TRULY doesn't seem to give a crap how he is perceived. Unfortunately, in today's game that can be a problem for an athlete...which is kind of a bummer. In terms of his future? There have been athletes like Curt Schilling who always had the talent but lacked something mentally and then...bam! They all of a sudden just seem to wake up and get it....in terms of the mental stuff and preparation and all the rest. Cutler has the talent as anyone can see, but it's hard for me to believe he's ever going to be a great QB judging from what I've seen and that's only a single year of being the QB for the Bears. I didn't follow him in Denver or in college. And the reason I have a hard time believing is that the vast majority of the time, super talented players that don't get it, like Allen Iverson as just one example, end up never getting it. But I can tell you that I hope I'm wrong. I'm the last person who is an expert on this guy only having seen him every week for just one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Teacher Matt Posted September 15, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 WEEK #1 - Cardinals ..... winner... WEEK #2 - Steelers .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob Eaton Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Week #1: JETS WINNER Week #2: BALTIMORE ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted September 15, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Week #1: JETS WINNER Week #2: BALTIMORE ? As long as BAL stays humble after they curb-stomped PIT, BAL should handle the Titans. Vegas agrees - the current line is 5.5 for any gambling degenerates out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP cm_hayden Posted September 15, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Following everyone's lead. Week 1: Jets - winner Week 2: Cowboys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP August West Posted September 15, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Week #1: JETS WINNER Week #2: BALTIMORE ? Although the Ravens looked very good last week, I try and stay away from road teams early in Survivor pools. Especially when you have Pittsburgh available at home laying 14 1/2 coming off that ass-whoopin. Good luck Rob.....hopefully CJ doesn't go off. One more week in your 40's!! Enjoy your time at at home with your family, before the road beckons. Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP gr8fulpair Posted September 16, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Week #1: Titans - Loser Week #2: back to drinking beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted September 16, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Week #1 - Cardinals (Winner-barely) Week #2 - Bucs? Early exit? Arrrrrrrrrrrgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP cm_hayden Posted September 18, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Another scare from the Cowboys, thank God I don't have to choose them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted September 19, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Week #1 - Cardinals (Winner-barely) Week #2 - Bucs? Early exit? Arrrrrrrrrrrgh. The Vikes came from ahead to keep me alive.... Arrrggghh Matey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP bs69 Posted September 19, 2011 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Looks like everyone except Rob E. moves on. here is week 3: Patriots@Bills Jaguars@Panthers 49ers@Bengals Dolphins@Browns Lions@Vikings Texans@Saints Giants@Eagles Broncos@Titans Jets@Raiders Chiefs@Chargers Ravens@Rams Packers@Bears Cardinals@Seahawks Falcons@Buccaneers Steelers@Colts Redskins@Cowboys Looks like a tough week. I expect the Chargers to be popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Dstone5553 Posted September 19, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Looks like a tough week. I expect the Chargers to be popular. The two locks are the Chargers and the Steelers and I've already picked them both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP acududeman Posted September 19, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Chargers over Chiefs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted September 20, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Steelers over the Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP August West Posted September 20, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Chargers over Chiefs I'll take the Chargers also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Teacher Matt Posted September 20, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 WEEK #1 - Cardinals ..... winner... WEEK #2 - Steelers .... WEEK # 3 - Chargers.... Can we get the people that have survived both week #1 and #2 and are moving forward... 1. Teacher Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP cm_hayden Posted September 20, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Week 3 - 49ers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted September 21, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 WEEK # 3 - Chargers.... Can we get the people that have survived both week #1 and #2 and are moving forward... 1. Teacher Matt 2. Tea for Texas (in cardiac fashion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP bs69 Posted September 21, 2011 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 WEEK # 3 - Chargers.... Can we get the people that have survived both week #1 and #2 and are moving forward... 1. Teacher Matt Those still alive in week 3 are: 1.Tea for Texas 2.CM Hayden 3. Teacher Matt 4.August West 5. DStone5553 6. Acududeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Dstone5553 Posted September 24, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 I want to pick Carolina because I think destiny has it where this week will be Cam Newton's first NFL win but I gotta go with the Eagles because one can't go making bets on rookies...no matter what they've done in the first two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Teacher Matt Posted September 26, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 I want to pick Carolina because I think destiny has it where this week will be Cam Newton's first NFL win but I gotta go with the Eagles because one can't go making bets on rookies...no matter what they've done in the first two weeks. stick to burning Dead shows..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Dstone5553 Posted September 26, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 stick to burning Dead shows..... I was watching that Philly game and I actually think Vick was going to win it for Phillly in that 4th quarter, but them's the breaks. Philly and Vick are always iffy just becasue of Vick's style and how often he will get injured. I should have stuck with my Carolina pick, despite Newton being a rookie. But you're still the Costanza of all sports predictions Teacher Matt. Don't forget that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted September 26, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Apparently I like to pick close games......geez. A W is W no matter how you slice it. Piitsburgh is going to have a tough go if they can't protect their QB. Hopefully, I will find a less angina-inducing pick for next Sunday's tilts. Here they are: Sun, Oct 2 DET @ DAL PIT @ HOU SF @ PHI MIN @ KC WAS @ STL BUF @ CIN TEN @ CLE NO @ JAC CAR @ CHI ATL @ SEA NYG @ ARI DEN @ GB NE @ OAK MIA @ SD NYJ @ BAL Mon, Oct 03 IND @ TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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