Forum MVP chuckvegas Posted June 15, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Up to and through last year the only canines there were not K-9s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Teacher Matt Posted June 16, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Can anyone answer with certainty whether or not the police are performing searches of vehicles and campsites with dogs? I understand the police presence trying to stop drug trafficking, but believe that most would agree that random searches with dogs is going way too far. Anyone with real first hand knowledge? no dogs... but we got a guy who likes to boost about his dogs and being able to smell the hippie lettuce.. which I would say the least is interesting and may have to present a challenge to this person's said dogs... bark bark puff puff... I have been to all the Gratfulfests except 2 and a few of the Reggaefests and have not seen dogs... but like Dylan said... these times they are a changing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Charlie Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 no dogs... but we got a guy who likes to boost about his dogs and being able to smell the hippie lettuce.. which I would say the least is interesting and may have to present a challenge to this person's said dogs... bark bark puff puff... I have been to all the Gratfulfests except 2 and a few of the Reggaefests and have not seen dogs... but like Dylan said... these times they are a changing Has anyone been out to the ledges this year that can confirm or deny the stories of drug sniffing dogs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimo Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Has anyone been out to the ledges this year that can confirm or deny the stories of drug sniffing dogs? Where have you heard or read there are sniffing dogs at NLQP? I have not heard or read this anywhere. I've seen cops make rounds in their squad car through the park and have heard about undercovers buying stuff to bust people but that's the extent of it. I don't think the cops will or have brought dogs inside nlqp. They can't come in a have their dog sniff your campsite without probable cause to do so. Evan and local law enforcement want heavy drugs out of the park. They will continue to show their presence and will continue to make undercover busts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedges Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 I was out for Spring Hookah and while i saw the presence several times i did not see any K9. Be smart, don't be an asshole and don't traffic and you shouldn't have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancer'sChoice Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 I was at NLQP for Memorial Day weekend. It's one of their smaller festivals, and the park was about half full. We never saw any dogs, and the only police presence that we saw was an walkthrough of the beach/stage/vending area on Saturday evening. We go to the ledges 4-5 times per year. This is our third year doing so, and from what I have seen, Hedges is absolutely correct. Be smart; don't draw attention to yourself, and you will not have any issue with security or with Ohio's finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Charlie Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Where have you heard or read there are sniffing dogs at NLQP? I have not heard or read this anywhere. I've seen cops make rounds in their squad car through the park and have heard about under-covers buying stuff to bust people but that's the extent of it. I don't think the cops will or have brought dogs inside nlqp. They can't come in a have their dog sniff your campsite without probable cause to do so. Evan and local law enforcement want heavy drugs out of the park. They will continue to show their presence and will continue to make undercover busts. There was a Face book page with people taking about dogs and earlier in this thread there was talk of police pulling people over at random and requesting a search of the vehicle. I am not worried about under covers making buys because I am not a drug dealer. However random searches are an entirely different story. It seems like a blatant violation of ones rights. So hearing that these stories are fictitious is comforting. I am now again looking forward to getting out to the ledges without any reservations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Supplicated Velvet Thunder Posted June 17, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 go early! then there are fewer problems.... and.... WAIT.... people SLEEP at Gratefulfest? NO WAY! What a waste! There are so many cool people to hang out with, and so much music to play and hear, and so many conversations to have and trees and shadows and moonlight and reflections on the water and oh my goodness, SLEEP? HOW? WHY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Badgerboy Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 yeah i would say i was more worried that everyone was gonna go to bed at midnight and I would be left alone sitting up all night then about drug busts. Dont sell stuff and im sure everyone will be fine. Sounds like there are other people that are trying to rage... This is my one weekend of free time this summer. im trying to DO IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimo Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 yeah i would say i was more worried that everyone was gonna go to bed at midnight and I would be left alone sitting up all night then about drug busts. Dont sell stuff and im sure everyone will be fine. Sounds like there are other people that are trying to rage... This is my one weekend of free time this summer. im trying to DO IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Last year, the staff told us to stop playing music (playing guitar and djembes) at around 3:30am one night. They didn't tell us to stop playing on other nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Badgerboy Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Thats not to bad. I hope I am tired out by 330.....but who knows lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Ok. What if you are stopped and asked to consent to a search. I know at first I would say no. What did I do to cause the law to search my car or person? Anyone know EXACTLY what to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP anddave Posted June 29, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 >ahem< Counsel? A quick google search found this: http://www.aclu.org/drug-law-reform-immigrants-rights-racial-justice/know-your-rights-what-do-if-you#3 Best advice is travel clean and then you can say yes to a search and get on with your day. Sad that it is so in a country that dares to call itself free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 I am traveling clean, thus no need to search. It will really test me to swallow and say yes. But I hear what you are saying. Thanks for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP anddave Posted June 29, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 see you there when we all come home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP chuckvegas Posted June 29, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 "In a land that's known as freedom How can such a thing be fair?" Just understand that the "exclusionary rule" that prohibits introduction of evidence obtained through an illegal search has many, many exceptions. In general, there is very little freedom left when it comes to vehicles and what you have/do in them. As a general proposition, you have essentially no expectation of privacy when it comes to operating one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP anddave Posted June 29, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 pretty recent news and commentary http://www.recordpub.com/news/article/5046338 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP chuckvegas Posted June 29, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 pretty recent news and commentary http://www.recordpub...article/5046338 After reading this and the comments, all I can is "wow." Stick to friends/family/loved ones. And remember Camp Zoe...acts have consequences. Not that any of this is meant to be a buzz kill - have fun!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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