Forum MVP August West Posted May 2, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 So Obama did what a Republican administration couldn't, found and killed Osama Bin Laden. I am soooooo happy for the families that lost loved ones on 9-11, a few of which I know. Justice has been served. I think he just took a gigantic step towards winning a second term. It's a great day for our country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted May 2, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 I must admit I am glad that Bin Laden is dead. I also think Obama may win reelection based on this fact alone. I, however, fear for the worst. I am not well read enough on the subject to know the facts, but I know that in the movie braveheart. William Wallace was killed and killing the figure head of the movement did the exact opposite of what was wanted. I fear the movement is much bigger than Bin Laden. The death of there most well known leader may only enrage them to fight harder and lead to new recruits. I can not applaud the murder of even the most hated of all terrorist. I hope someday man reaches a point where enough people have died at the hands of man and we stop killing one another once and for all. I know I am naive and this dream will not be achieved in my lifetime or probably ever in the history of man. The message of the most beloved of all religious leaders, including Christ, have been lost on the minds and hearts of men. I do not believe that his death in anyway furthers peace. I do feel in some way justice was served. The man was truly evil and did not deserve the air in his lungs. I just hope positive things are the outcome of the death of this truly evil man. God bless the USA and the people and families of those victimized by the evil actions of the now deceased. God bless all mankind. Greg, this was tough for me to post. I know I should be screaming USA and hooray. Today certainly was a good day for America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP FunkyBass13 Posted May 2, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 I must admit I am glad that Bin Laden is dead. I also think Obama may win reelection based on this fact alone. I, however, fear for the worst. I am not well read enough on the subject to know the facts, but I know that in the movie braveheart. William Wallace was killed and killing the figure head of the movement did the exact opposite of what was wanted. I fear the movement is much bigger than Bin Laden. The death of there most well known leader may only enrage them to fight harder and lead to new recruits. I can not applaud the murder of even the most hated of all terrorist. I hope someday man reaches a point where enough people have died at the hands of man and we stop killing one another once and for all. I know I am naive and this dream will not be achieved in my lifetime or probably ever in the history of man. The message of the most beloved of all religious leaders, including Christ, have been lost on the minds and hearts of men. I do not believe that his death in anyway furthers peace. I do feel in some way justice was served. The man was truly evil and did not deserve the air in his lungs. I just hope positive things are the outcome of the death of this truly evil man. God bless the USA and the people and families of those victimized by the evil actions of the now deceased. God bless all mankind. Greg, this was tough for me to post. I know I should be screaming USA and hooray. Today certainly was a good day for America. Amen, brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYHead12 Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Rick my good friend this is one i will have to disagree with you on. That man didnt deserve but NEEDED to be killed. His death does more than furthur peace. It provides some sense of relief for families and friends who were deeply affected by 9/11. Its furthur's our country's patriotism and symbolizes to every service men and women that what we fight for and why we serve our country has a purpose. A Democratic administration didnt kill Osama. Concrete Information was just brought to light and confirmed during a time Democrats were in office. Navy SEALs killed Osama and that is what should be brought to light. This time of war for our country was brought about by this man and his death encourages us all who serve to keep pushing through tough times, whether democratic liberals who bash our efforts criticize the fight or hard working Americans support what wat do. MORE men and women have died during the Obama Administration than all 8 years of Bush. But this isnt about politics, this is about Americans restoring Patriotism on a day every person alive to remember it, will know where they were when Osama Bin Laden was announced dead, his body in US costudy. Rick you should have seen this place tonight. I know campuses across the country were celebrating but boy we were going nuts, a sober nuts i might add. One final thought, Osama was not killed by an air strike, but with boots on the ground and eyes through a scope. God Bless the men and women who serve our country and God Bless America. "Wave That Flag!!!!!!!....Wave It Wide and High!!!!!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Evangeline Posted May 2, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Very few deaths that I would ever cheer. This is one of them. It will never right the tragedy of 9/11 nor bring back the lost souls from that day, but it is a moral and political victory for all Americans and another promise that Obama has kept. When I heard the news last night, I was very glad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP New York Steve Posted May 2, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Rick my good friend this is one i will have to disagree with you on. That man didnt deserve but NEEDED to be killed. His death does more than furthur peace. It provides some sense of relief for families and friends who were deeply affected by 9/11. Its furthur's our country's patriotism and symbolizes to every service men and women that what we fight for and why we serve our country has a purpose. A Democratic administration didnt kill Osama. Concrete Information was just brought to light and confirmed during a time Democrats were in office. Navy SEALs killed Osama and that is what should be brought to light. This time of war for our country was brought about by this man and his death encourages us all who serve to keep pushing through tough times, whether democratic liberals who bash our efforts criticize the fight or hard working Americans support what wat do. MORE men and women have died during the Obama Administration than all 8 years of Bush. But this isnt about politics, this is about Americans restoring Patriotism on a day every person alive to remember it, will know where they were when Osama Bin Laden was announced dead, his body in US costudy. Rick you should have seen this place tonight. I know campuses across the country were celebrating but boy we were going nuts, a sober nuts i might add. One final thought, Osama was not killed by an air strike, but with boots on the ground and eyes through a scope. God Bless the men and women who serve our country and God Bless America. "Wave That Flag!!!!!!!....Wave It Wide and High!!!!!!!!" Obama got him and Bush couldn't.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP anddave Posted May 2, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Thoughts? Martyrdom serves his end, rather than ours. The best we could hope for was that he die on his own in relative obscurity. Triumphant news of his assassination in the field is not helpful. Obama/Bush?!?! Puh-lease. Presidents don't do these missions. Military and/or CIA operatives do. Winning re-election based upon this while disregarding the fact that we are deficit-spending 10% of GDP would be a very poor reflection on the electorate. Sadly par for the course I suppose. Is it ok to rejoice in the death of a bad person? No it is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P2inboulder Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 I am indifferent to this. I think he was merely a figurehead the last few years. Whoever takes the reins, I'm sure will be more militant. That, and the death of Gaddafi's son over the weekend doesn't bode will for the west (USA). New color for the terror alerts. A hopeless endeavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Obama got him and Bush couldn't.... I thought I might feel this way when I heard the news but did not. There is not a stronger supporter of our current president than myself and maybe not a harsher critic of Bush's Unilateral and Cowboy Diplomacy approach to foreign policy during his term than myself. Our brand (USA) was in the toilet globally by by the end of his term.. Having said all that my emotion was as Obama simply stated that "Justice Has Been Done"..and while I was not a supporter of Bush I was happy for him as he invested alot of angst and time in trying to get this guy.... Obama deserves credit for setting the tone and continue to educate the dumb asses in our Country that Bin-Ladens twisted perversion of Islam....was not representative of Islam, and Bush to his credit struck this tone as well during both his terms although not as artfully as the current President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP VincentPuleo Posted May 2, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 This is a symbolic victory... As the President said last night in his speech, this is far from over. I am glad to have a President who can actually speak English articulately, unlike the guy before. I feel bit queasy saying "God Bless America"... yes, this is most definitely a good thing... his death can now be put to rest but this means little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Teacher Matt Posted May 2, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 A great day in our nations history and you want to bash Bush... pretty sad and pathetic of people .... I tip my cap to our current President and our Military... I wear my red, white, and blue to work today and am proud today to be an American on a day when possibly the most hatred person by Americans (along with Hitler ... who we found out on May 1st, 1945 died ... scary 66 years to the day) is killed and you people want to rip our former Commander In Chief who served his country for 8 difficult years... really ? ... come on ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP chuckvegas Posted May 2, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Maybe this is not quite grounds for the same jubilation, and it definitely does not offer the same sense of finality, but I still take comfort in the fact that this man has gotten his just rewards. Though perhaps he was marginalized these past few years, and those even more radicalized have taken the reins of the various splinter groups that have been appearing like hydras, I believe that eliminating him from this planet was worth the effort and the risk. Yes, he is martyr material, but in the meantime he sleeps with the fishes. Good riddance. Ultimately vengeance is the Lord's to mete out, and if there is a hell then his soul is one that should qualify for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted May 2, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Rick my good friend this is one i will have to disagree with you on. That man didnt deserve but NEEDED to be killed. His death does more than furthur peace. It provides some sense of relief for families and friends who were deeply affected by 9/11. Its furthur's our country's patriotism and symbolizes to every service men and women that what we fight for and why we serve our country has a purpose. A Democratic administration didnt kill Osama. Concrete Information was just brought to light and confirmed during a time Democrats were in office. Navy SEALs killed Osama and that is what should be brought to light. This time of war for our country was brought about by this man and his death encourages us all who serve to keep pushing through tough times, whether democratic liberals who bash our efforts criticize the fight or hard working Americans support what wat do. MORE men and women have died during the Obama Administration than all 8 years of Bush. But this isnt about politics, this is about Americans restoring Patriotism on a day every person alive to remember it, will know where they were when Osama Bin Laden was announced dead, his body in US costudy. Rick you should have seen this place tonight. I know campuses across the country were celebrating but boy we were going nuts, a sober nuts i might add. One final thought, Osama was not killed by an air strike, but with boots on the ground and eyes through a scope. God Bless the men and women who serve our country and God Bless America. "Wave That Flag!!!!!!!....Wave It Wide and High!!!!!!!!" Only time will tell the true impact on peace and on the history of man. I don't want my original post to be misconstrued. I am happy that the a goal was accomplished. I believe that when we started fighting the Iraq and Afghanistan wars that the U.S. wasn't doing enough to pursue the real objective of finding and in the end, taking the life of Bin Laden. It took far longer than I would have liked or expected, but I am happy that the service men and women of America have acheived their goal. I do not share the same pride in America that many Americans do. Maybe I should because America has done so much to provide me a relatively free and easy life to live. A life many people, in many places, including this one, do not enjoy. America is very similar to 18th century Great Britain and that point is not lost on me. I do not and can not support imperialism. Still, the men and women who serve this country deserve to be honored and commended for their success. I agree this has nothing to do with politics. Unfortunately, I have little faith in the American public to not attribute the success of our service men and women to the figure head of our country, Obama. Just like the so called successes of the jihad movement often had little to do with Bin Laden but he was always given some credit. God Bless America and the rest of the World. May peace and love eventually win the War against evil and hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Dstone5553 Posted May 2, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 and while I was not a supporter of Bush I was happy for him as he invested alot of angst and time in trying to get this guy.... He did? He must have thought that guy took a flight to Iraq with his family for an extended vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgrmag2564 Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 I don't know what to feel today. I am glad the man is dead and I am glad that it was carried out so personally. He likely saw the eyes of the person that killed him. But to rejoice in the murder of another just feels wrong. It bothers me to ponder that after thousands of years of killing each other, we still have not figured out how to live together in peace and likely never will. Peace, Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 He did?He must have thought that guy took a flight to Iraq with his family for an extended vacation. No disrespect DSTONE..and the notion of me defending Bush is actually somewhat bizzare given my left leaning ways..but defend him I will..No I don't think we should have pivoted from Agfhanistan to Iraq, Yes I was opposed to the Iraq War in a big way.. However your response somehow suggests there was not a concerted parallel effort during the Iraq war and during the Bush administration to hunt out and kill Bin Laden by our military and intelligence agencies...Did they get the job done? No.. Was it through lack of effort? Dont think so.. Did it weigh on the President of the United States post 911..that one of his stated goals to the American people was to get Osama Bin Laden and bring him to justice and he could not get the job done? I think so. I will stand by my statement..Dubya put alot of leg work into getting this guy...and deserves a little credit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Dstone5553 Posted May 2, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 No disrespect DSTONE..and the notion of me defending Bush is actually somewhat bizzare given my left leaning ways..but defend him I will..No I don't think we should have pivoted from Agfhanistan to Iraq, Yes I was opposed to the Iraq War in a big way.. However your response somehow suggests there was not a concerted parallel effort during the Iraq war and during the Bush administration to hunt out and kill Bin Laden by our military and intelligence agencies...Did they get the job done? No.. Was it through lack of effort? Dont think so.. Did it weigh on the President of the United States post 911..that one of his stated goals to the American people was to get Osama Bin Laden and bring him to justice and he could not get the job done? I think so. I will stand by my statement..Dubya put alot of leg work into getting this guy...and deserves a little credit.. Gee...Obama said TIME and TIME again on the campaign that he thought Bush WASTED MANY resources and MUCH time by focusing on Iraq instead of going after this guy in Afghanistan. He promised to reverse this if he became president. But hey...the fact that this seemed to work...that's probably just a coincidence. I'm sure if Bush was still in office and our main focus was in Iraq, we still would have gotten him yesterday. Yup. Props to Bush and how he went about trying to get that guy (and I'm not talking about Saddam). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP chuckvegas Posted May 2, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 I find it an interesting coincidence that the termination of bin Laden with extreme prejudice took place on the 8th anniversary of the declaration that the "mission" was "accomplished." Not ironic, just amusing in a gallows humor sort of way. But that's me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Dstone5553 Posted May 2, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 ^^^ Look at that face. Don't you want to stick a fork in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutrino Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Amazing that it has been a full 8 years to the day that the Bush made his "Mission Accomplished" carrier landing photo-op. How different would things be today if Bush had actually finished the job in Afghanistan, instead of taking us into Iraq to prove he's tougher than his daddy? A mere 6 months after 9/11 we had this gem from Jr: " I dont know where he is. I really just dont spend that much time on him, to be honest with you. Well, I for one am glad we now have a President who doesn't have such attention deficiit disorder. I'm glad we don't have an incompetent President who pulls the plug on a military operation when bin Ladin was trapped and the net was coming down, as we saw in Tora Bora in 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP GratefulFred Posted May 3, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I am, at most, apathetic to his death. There are folks that I'd like to kill, myself, because of things that they have done to people and critters that I Love. But, apparently, you're not allowed to do that. The fact that they killed a man who was responsible for so negatively affecting so many peoples' lives doesn't sit all that poorly with me. While I don't think that violence is good thing at all, I simply don't care. (I imagine that that would probably piss him off more than anything, but I just don't think him worth my emotional energies.) Now, if it had been my daughter or someone like that who was killed on New York, I admit that I would probably be shamelessly celebrating in the street. My hat is off to those who were directly affected by this man for their noble opinion that killing is not the solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyFire Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 "I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." ~Martin Luther King, Jr.~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octal Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Where are the conspiracy theories? I thought all you hippies had zonked-out political theories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP gr8fulpair Posted May 5, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 While not the popular thing to say, killing him was revenge, and revenge is an evil trait. It is merely my belief, but there is no one on earth who has been granted the authority to decide whether another lives or dies. I just don't believe in murder, even ones that feel as just as this. What I do believe in is taking scumbags like Bin Laden and locking them in a windowless concrete bunker to live out their lives in dark, cold misery. Killing him let him off the hook. I do not know all of the dynamics and ramifications of not killing him and I'm sure many options were considered. I just know that if I were the one in charge of the group that knew where he was hiding, I could not have given an order to kill. Capture, beat the shit out of, drag to prison by his beard, yes, kill, no. Killing him made a lot of people happy and proud and I am happy for their happiness. I am not sad that he is dead. There is no irony in murdering a murderer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP GratefulFred Posted May 5, 2011 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 I, for one, would not be real thrilled about my tax dollars going to keep this man alive and healthy for the rest of his natural life and then some. Crude as it may be to say, two bullets were a lot cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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