sonomajon Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 http://blotterati.com/furthurmore/ Just a stones throw from Mt Aire...Phil might not like the name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP comesatime Posted May 4, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 This could have Phil pissing off possibilities .... beware the wrath of bad KARMA ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP VincentPuleo Posted May 5, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 oh man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP chuckvegas Posted May 5, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted May 5, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Nice! I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawdoc Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 dso with Stu would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP comesatime Posted May 5, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 After the Furthur Festival at Mountain Aire, prepare to go even Furthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franknkeene Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 "with conductor" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutrino Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 I'm seriously wondering if Lesh and Lesh LLP will file a legal suit about the name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDad Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 I'm seriously wondering if Lesh and Lesh LLP will file a legal suit about the name? I think Kesey, et al had the name first - furthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugdog Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted May 5, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 I think I'm going. This looks like it could be fun. Need to inquire about tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutrino Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 I think Kesey, et al had the name first - furthur Yes, but that hasn't stopped people with legal power from suing over names they didn't originate themselves in the past. Perhaps the most infamous example is McDonalds. They sued some guy in Scotland for running a restaurant named McDonalds. Didn't matter that this had been his family name for centuries, and they had this inn with his family name serving food long before the golden arches existed!!! There was an even more absurd suit that happened in Santa Cruz at a natural food restaurant I enjoy. They had called it "McDharmas" and they had vegetarian items like the Brahmaburger. McDonalds successfully sued them, and they had to change their name to "Dharmas". Before the name change, they put a red circle with a slash over the "Mc" part. McDonalds was not amused. I guess they thought people might confuse this mellow little restarurant serving healthy food with their junk food franchises. Pretty unbelievable, but it did happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty the Scoob Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Interesting... I was just reading Dennis McNally's book over the weekend and one of the interesting tidbits was about Cherry Garcia. Apparently Ben & Jerry's never even asked Jerry for permission to use his name and likeness. Jerry didn't care but his attorney convinced him he had to take action or risk losing control over his name entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Forum MVP anddave Posted May 10, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 hasn't stopped people with legal power from suing over names they didn't originate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP kdubfan Posted May 11, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 A proud sponsor... I love this shirt. Mine fell apart a long time ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP chuckvegas Posted May 11, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 I love this shirt. Mine fell apart a long time ago Then you're safe from the looming copyright infringement litigation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARCH STANTON Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 This could have Phil pissing off possibilities .... beware the wrath of bad KARMA ... Wow, guess we're not the only ones that can't stand phil's greed and antics. Never mind us crowing bout further.....his old "friend" and bandmate giving him the business! I bet the phil/jill show was on the phone to the lawyer as soon as they found out. I would guess there's nothing phil can do unless he has rights to the furthermore name too. Hope it got their panties in a bunch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP comesatime Posted May 13, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Wow, guess we're not the only ones that can't stand phil's greed and antics. Never mind us crowing bout further.....his old "friend" and bandmate giving him the business! I bet the phil/jill show was on the phone to the lawyer as soon as they found out. I would guess there's nothing phil can do unless he has rights to the furthermore name too. Hope it got their panties in a bunch! I think if there was an issue with this festival over the name it would have surfaced already but there may have been some panties bunched up LOL ... I just wonder why Billy AND Mickey aren't in Furthur ... having them in the band would give Furthur the juice it needs to play the bigger venues across the country and put together tours that makes sense ... they would probably be able to settle in each venue for 3 or 4 shows and most if not all would be sell outs ... the old fellas could go out in style from this venture after a few runs ... as most agree , they can't do the grind forever , so why not dig in and do it the right way ... that would probably be good for all concerned ... and this is just my 2 cents ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutrino Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I think if there was an issue with this festival over the name it would have surfaced already but there may have been some panties bunched up LOL ... I just wonder why Billy AND Mickey aren't in Furthur ... having them in the band would give Furthur the juice it needs to play the bigger venues across the country and put together tours that makes sense ... they would probably be able to settle in each venue for 3 or 4 shows and most if not all would be sell outs ... the old fellas could go out in style from this venture after a few runs ... as most agree , they can't do the grind forever , so why not dig in and do it the right way ... that would probably be good for all concerned ... and this is just my 2 cents ... I heard that Billy/Mickey had a major falling out with Phil/Bobby during the last Dead tour. Don't know any specifics about what happened. However, the fact that neither of the drummers were up on the stage at Phil's 70th bash would seem to speak volumes. I was really hoping all four would play together along with JK at that show. That would have been truly epic. As it went down, Phil's B-day show was a big disappointment from my perspective. Just another P&F show, with JK marginalized and WAY too much of Chris Robinson. I know some thought is was a great show, but I just found it to be a lost opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP comesatime Posted May 13, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I heard that Billy/Mickey had a major falling out with Phil/Bobby during the last Dead tour. Don't know any specifics about what happened. However, the fact that neither of the drummers were up on the stage at Phil's 70th bash would seem to speak volumes. I was really hoping all four would play together along with JK at that show. That would have been truly epic. As it went down, Phil's B-day show was a big disappointment from my perspective. Just another P&F show, with JK marginalized and WAY too much of Chris Robinson. I know some thought is was a great show, but I just found it to be a lost opportunity. I forgot about them not attending Phil's birthday , that does say something about the relationship ... they're getting old and they should probably put whatever it is aside and make nice ... all the elements would be in place for a real killer run , they know how to do it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subcooler Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I think if there was an issue with this festival over the name it would have surfaced already but there may have been some panties bunched up LOL ... I just wonder why Billy AND Mickey aren't in Furthur ... having them in the band would give Furthur the juice it needs to play the bigger venues across the country and put together tours that makes sense ... they would probably be able to settle in each venue for 3 or 4 shows and most if not all would be sell outs ... the old fellas could go out in style from this venture after a few runs ... as most agree , they can't do the grind forever , so why not dig in and do it the right way ... that would probably be good for all concerned ... and this is just my 2 cents ... From what I understand there are several reasons for Billy/Mickey not joining in Furthur....To name a few-Billy not interested in replacing lead guitar with a( "Jerry clone"-His words not mine) and conflicts arose during Dead '09(irreconcilable differences?)Maybe they just refuse to play with a leader who does lead with authority not by default! Speaking of Dead '09-that didn't completely sell out, so why do you think they'd sell out most shows in larger arenas(ex: MSG/Byrne arena)? I think the 3-4 days runs would be a hard deal to sell out most places-Keep in mind the size of the venues Furthur is playing! Peace, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP comesatime Posted May 13, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 From what I understand there are several reasons for Billy/Mickey not joining in Furthur....To name a few-Billy not interested in replacing lead guitar with a( "Jerry clone"-His words not mine) and conflicts arose during Dead '09(irreconcilable differences?)Maybe they just refuse to play with a leader who does lead with authority not by default! Speaking of Dead '09-that didn't completely sell out, so why do you think they'd sell out most shows in larger arenas(ex: MSG/Byrne arena)? I think the 3-4 days runs would be a hard deal to sell out most places-Keep in mind the size of the venues Furthur is playing! Peace, Rob Wishful thinking , maybe ... but they seem to be doing pretty well running in a sort of disarray with band members leaving and a somewhat crazy looking tour schedule ... a little organization and the rest of the living members could give it the kick it needs to sell those type of venues , maybe take the rest of this year as a building year and go for it next season ... who knows !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subcooler Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Wishful thinking , maybe ... but they seem to be doing pretty well running in a sort of disarray with band members leaving and a somewhat crazy looking tour schedule ... a little organization and the rest of the living members could give it the kick it needs to sell those type of venues , maybe take the rest of this year as a building year and go for it next season ... who knows !!! Call it what you will-I honestly am wishing nothing but the best for JK ! A few weeks/months ago when I was more interested in Furthur, I predicted they would be playing Red Rocks before they were through......Today I really don't care if they do! This will not become a running debate....Just had to add my 2 cents again. Peace, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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