Brian NJ Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Be nice boys! I know you can disagree without being disagreeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mind Of A Squirrel Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 JK - I am one guy that is 100% in your corner on this one. "The wheel is turning" +1 and then some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpinky Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 How about you all get your own message board on the Furthur site, we're doing just fine here... I'm glad you don't really care, John, cause the DSO forums shouldn't concern you anymore anyway.... Now now. Let's not forget our manners. Ms. Abbey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP New York Steve Posted January 15, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 One of the founding principles of DSO was unification of the disparate cliques in the Chicago area and the dispelling of the "sports team" model of fan support (as in, rooting for one "team" and disparaging all others)......now where are we? Herd, have you been given the assignment of baiting me into open hostility? "stranger ones have come by here..." DSO was a dream I actively nurtured for 8 years before Tiny asked Scott and I to sub in his band, Jahari's Window, and at that time Mike Maraat and I had been hunting for drummers and sporadically jamming for over a year. So, 20 years of my life in THIS SPECIFIC BAND (DSO) and suddenly I'm not supposed to care? Hmmm I would say "he probably still cares" applies. Pretty cool that John still checks this out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP acududeman Posted January 15, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 One of the founding principles of DSO was unification of the disparate cliques in the Chicago area and the dispelling of the "sports team" model of fan support (as in, rooting for one "team" and disparaging all others)......now where are we? Herd, have you been given the assignment of baiting me into open hostility? "stranger ones have come by here..." DSO was a dream I actively nurtured for 8 years before Tiny asked Scott and I to sub in his band, Jahari's Window, and at that time Mike Maraat and I had been hunting for drummers and sporadically jamming for over a year. So, 20 years of my life in THIS SPECIFIC BAND (DSO) and suddenly I'm not supposed to care? Hmmm John, I am thrilled to see you posting on the DSO boards. I am even more thrilled to see you defending the Oneness of the greater GD scene/community. I think it is fear that creeps in and has us feel afraid of losing something we had or not getting something we want. Change is the only constant after all. If I can simply relax and trust the process, then I have no doubt that once again abunDANCE will shower down as it always has. Can't wait to check out furthur at the Patriot Center. And once again, I say "Congratulations!" namaste, reid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subcooler Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Dusty, I didn't open this can of worms, although I'm glad it was. Like Pandora's Box once opened it's out! How's that for metaphors? I know I can't please everyone, but I do try try to please the majority. Who did open this can of worms ? Taper Ron-Your doing a grate job pleasing the majority here ! Peace, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 ...If I can simply relax and trust the process, then I have no doubt that once again abunDANCE will shower down as it always has. Okay, just to add a little silliness to what has been a serious discussion thread: How about: A BUN DANCE Shake it, Shake it, Reid!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugdog Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Yeah, it seems harsh to remove the Furthur chat....it's family...either way I'll be reading Furthur setlists and comments DAILY....here, or elsewhere. If anything keeping Furthur on here would result in cross-promotion...it certainly isn't going to hurt DSO Majority rules I suppose. With that being said if JK takes offense to it (and he SHOULD) then his wishes should be respected. The love you give.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jaybee Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 As I read this thread and JK's earlier post earlier today, this line comes to mind: Without love in the dream, insanity's king. I may be new to posting here but have been in and around this scene for many years. It is the joy and love of the music, and sharing it, that brings us all together. Let's not forget the love that brought us here in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP VincentPuleo Posted January 16, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 One of the founding principles of DSO was unification of the disparate cliques in the Chicago area and the dispelling of the "sports team" model of fan support (as in, rooting for one "team" and disparaging all others)... Yes! Yes! Yes! I think this is an easy mantra everyone must be conscious of. To remove the Furthur thread did not make sense to me, but TaperRon... this is a great and efficient way for the forum to make everyone at peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted January 16, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 This is a good solution for those that wanted the Forum folder removed. We still have a place to share information on Furthur and other bands we like to see. I hope we can all remember we are family through music and membership in the human race. Lets treat each other with respect and love. Anger, hate, and bad energy only make the situation worse for everyone, especially the one feeling and expressing those feelings. Although I would never advocate the repression of these emotions, lets try to release them in a constructive manner that leads to a release of these feelings and the spread of positive energy. I, for one, am happy JK still cares about this forum and its fans and anyone that believe someone when they start a statement that "I don't really care..." usually does care about whatever they are making a statement about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbones Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 This is the most bizarre thing I have seen on the boards yet....The energy is taken to remove the furthur pages from "Furthur Forum" to other bands...WHAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advisory Board Dr. Barry Posted January 16, 2010 Author Advisory Board Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Who did open this can of worms ? Taper Ron-Your doing a grate job pleasing the majority here ! Peace, Rob Since I started this thread I think you can say that I opened this can of worms, but I didn't create the situation...not by a long shot. This topic has been discussed peripherally for a long time around here in many ways, some subtle and some not. The tension has been right there, sometimes bubbling over the surface, sometimes simmering on the back burner. I don't post often but when I do I try and say something heartfelt for the good of our community. That is what I tried to do here. Clearly many have feelings about this very issue. I didn't create the issue or generate those feelings, that all existed before this thread. The Forums have changed alot in the past 6 months. In my opinion not for the better and I am sorry to say that, I truly am. Many old members barely post anymore and I know that is because they sense the same sharper edge that this place has to it nowadays. The DSO Forums has always been a place to show love and appreciation first and foremost to DSO. It is also a place to have fun, make friends and share fellowship with people of similar interests. I'm not here to argue or complain, debate or fight. I have no interest in any of that. I have the same sense of loss that occured when the GD scene went over the top with an influx of people that didn't know and/or didn't share or care for the core values of that scene. Our DSO Forums playground has become a bit of a sketchy place recently. I wouldn't take my shoes off in the sandbox anymore because there may be broken glass, and I wouldn't let my kids play there unattended. I'm still here because dead to the core I love DSO. Not only the music but the band themselves, and the great friends I've met along the way. And I will stay here, but I just won't take my shoes off in this sandbox anymore... Dr. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP FunkyBass13 Posted January 16, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 This is the most bizarre thing I have seen on the boards yet....The energy is taken to remove the furthur pages from "Furthur Forum" to other bands...WHAT? I'm kind of with you on that one tbones. As I was reading this thread (grown significantly since yesterday) all I could really think was WOW!! Its not that I'm NOT suprised by the strong opinions us Deadhead have , it just never dawned on me that we would have a 6 page thread and many people still seem a little on edge. I have a couple of points: 1) I think Squirrel has had the best suggestion so far: an Alumni Topic. When I first got on this board, one of the things that I enjoyed most was reading about some of the past members. It was also nice to see that many of the long time Starheads seemed to know many in DSO personally, which made for great stories about days past. As I see DSO continuing on for quite some time, I would like to think that an Alumni Topic would give newer people a chance to look back on the progression that this band has gone through over the years. I would hate to think that 5 years down the road, someone who is new to DSO would have no idea about Scott and what he brought to this band or what JK brought to the band, etc, etc. Kind of keeps with the whole "Family" thing. 2) After reading quite a bit of the posts and comments on this subject, I am definitely getting the feeling that there is much more to this whole story than most of us know, or probably should know. Maybe this whole thing is a bit too fresh and possibly a subject that some don't want to see continually discussed at this point. Maybe out of respect to DSO and to JK and to all of those on both sides of the fence on this subject, maybe we let it cool down a bit. I'm not saying that we need to stop talking about JK and his current band. I'm saying maybe we stop the bickering about what belongs and what doesn't. Everything will shake out, just as it is supposed to in due time. All good things in all good times. As I have referenced in previous posts, this is possibly the best time in the past 15 years to be a Deadhead and see your favorite music performed live. Let's try and be respectful and open and just enjoy this amazing time for GD music. Whoa, what I want to know, is are you kind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP found Posted January 16, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 All good things in all good times.As I have referenced in previous posts, this is possibly the best time in the past 15 years to be a Deadhead and see your favorite music performed live. Let's try and be respectful and open and just enjoy this amazing time for GD music. Whoa, what I want to know, is are you kind? Probably more like 20 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 >>> After reading quite a bit of the posts and comments on this subject, I am definitely getting the feeling that there is much more to this whole story than most of us know, or probably should know. Maybe this whole thing is a bit too fresh and possibly a subject that some don't want to see continually discussed at this point. Time for the healing to begin... -Stagger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP chuckvegas Posted January 16, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Who among us that were around 35-40 years ago, or even when Jerry passed, would have believed that the overall scene would be as strong as it is today? It has undergone a major renaissance in the past decade, and I firmly believe that to be in no small part due to the efforts of bands such as DSO and the fervent support of fans who believe. In many ways all of this here is the result of renewed growing pains and it hopefully will be looked back upon as a tempest in a teakeetle. It slips away, but we try. And the trying keeps it alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakada Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 to reiterate: "we will ALL be TOGETHER, forever and ever, when WE make it to the PromisedLand..." !!! p.s....my 2 cents {for whatever it is worth} is that JK is ALWAYS welcome & encouraged to BE here !!! {can i swear on here???} off, y'all, for the cold shoulder{s}, considering WE ARE ONE FAMILY !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP VincentPuleo Posted January 16, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 could not agree more, sakada.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taper Ron Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Enough has been said. You have a place to post about furthur if you want. If you don't want to read it you don't have to. I'm not going to make a forum for alumni, you are welcome to post about them if you want. JK is welcome to post here, and I don't have to set up the forum the way he wants. That's like someone telling you how to paint your house because he used to live in it. What's done is done and pissing and moaning about it now isn't going to change it. I have my reasons for not liking furthur and the shit a couple of the founding members have pulled over the last few years, and I'm not going to apologize for it. If you want me to Fuck Off let me know you can have the forums! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakada Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 my expression is for niceness thruout, sans the negativity...point is, the seed is the commonality that this beautiful multi-faceted lotus has bloomed from..."can't talk to you without talkin' to me..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deadheadmike Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Enough has been said. You have a place to post about furthur if you want. If you don't want to read it you don't have to.I'm not going to make a forum for alumni, you are welcome to post about them if you want. JK is welcome to post here, and I don't have to set up the forum the way he wants. That's like someone telling you how to paint your house because he used to live in it. What's done is done and pissing and moaning about it now isn't going to change it. I have my reasons for not liking furthur and the shit a couple of the founding members have pulled over the last few years, and I'm not going to apologize for it. If you want me to Fuck Off let me know you can have the forums! Ron ,not a single person on this board could do a better job than you at running this place , especially lately ... LOVE , RESPECT and MUCH THANKS to YOU for doing what you do !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP acududeman Posted January 16, 2010 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Okay, just to add a little silliness to what has been a serious discussion thread:How about: A BUN DANCE Shake it, Shake it, Reid!!! I'll be shakin' that ass, Robin....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 >>> What's done is done and pissing and moaning about it now isn't going to change it. Agreed... We're going Furthur already... -Stagger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbones Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 I have my reasons for not liking furthur and the shit a couple of the founding members have pulled over the last few years, and I'm not going to apologize for it. If you want me to Fuck Off let me know you can have the forums! I guess when the the man in charge of the forums "doesn't like furthur" then it should be no surprise to me that the furthur pages should end up in a diluted space shared with the rest of the bands of the world.....it is a reality check for me...the very day that Phil's 70th bday bash is announced, the furthur forum is put in "other bands"...Recently, I have been happy to feel a wave of positivity about this generation of GD music on the forum. Its been refreshing and has led to friendships with fellow forum members that may have been held back due to past forum discussions. Excuse the sports team analogy, but to me furthur is an allstar team....all the teams are playing together and we all win....It may be a taboo subject but i feel it is a mistake to think that having a focus on furthur on the dso board is threatening to the success of DSO. Any momentum towards GD music is good for everyone. Every time furthur plays there is a flock of new heads that will certainly be led to DSO for dead to the core experiences..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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