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Much better map. Mine was just a halfass one.

I made a quick map markup on my phone. I think VIP RV is behind the vip camping but regular RV is where pretty much everyone goes with RVs. You have a completely flat spot in regular RV. We used to do regular GA camping but you have to pack your gear around 500 feet. You are like 200 feet from the stage and super close in GA camping but packing gear up and down is a pain in the butt as you get older. Vip camping lets you camp next to your car but it’s a longer walk(maybe 700 feet to the stage). You are still close but not GA camping close. You get showers in Vip. I always used to say screw a shower, but a post show shower with hot water can be pretty freaking euphoric. edit: Ignore the pit pass stuff near the stage. This is a pic from another festival. The whole area is GA near the stage.

For RV just buy a regular Rv pass. You will be at top of the hill. No need for VIP RV. Regular is where everyone goes. It’s a good flat spot right outside the fence and there will be a ton of regulars there. you buy 1 RV pass for the vehicle and 2 festival passes. The RV pass is just for the RV. The festival pass is what will get you in and out of the venue.

It’s Friday, Saturday, Sunday, wake up and get the fuck out as early as possible Monday which is usually 9-10am. Year 1 and 2 we straggled out around 12:30. Now once the shit is over we GTFO to get home as early as possible. In 1 the last 4 years I have woken up at 11am on Monday hours later than planned to an empty lot and all our friends gone. Tarp city with 15 people became our tent with several tarps on the ground with workers saying better start packing up. Made sure we got properly woken up for the police profiling so we could tell them to suck it if they pulled us over. If you don’t know, the state troopers have a spotter at the jubilee interstate entrance Monday and you have a good shot to get pulled over miles down the interstate, so don’t drive dirty post jubilee. Every year we see multiple cars with cops emptying backpacks on the side of the interstate. Have your fun 3 days and don’t be stupid because they don’t fuck around and we know peeps who got arrested and a lawyer actually came on forums to talk about illegal police profiling. Can’t repeat this enough. Don’t leave jubilee with a bowl. Toss it in the trash on Monday and wait until you get home. Cheers.

We’d try to make it if 2 nights red rocks. I’d guess more likely deadco plays those 2 days.

I won’t drive cross country again like we did a few years ago. Too old for an 18 hour day on the road. I’ll fly and rent a car but getting from Kentucky to Palm Springs in 36 hours almost did me in. That counts sleeping. Once we made it out there it was gravy but that drive....

fixed it for you.

My only complaint about jubilee is the late night bands. Galactic and Boombox would be so much better after DSO. Ive seen galactic several times in Nola and once at a 2am start time which is a good start time for them lol. A psychedelic band should follow dso. Bluegrass is more of a daytime thing not late night and once electric music starts you don’t want to go back to accoustic. Boombox is pretty trippy and would make more sense for the mindset that many are in. You can always turn down the volume a bit if that’s the issue but after dso there are very few who actually stay down in the main area with the exclusion of 2019 when Billy Strings played so dropping the volume wouldn’t have much of an impact as people can just move a bit closer. Most other fests have late night psychedelic music areas for those that want a bit more. Looking at the lineup I’m guessing that Yonder and Rumpke will play the 1230-2am slot Friday and Saturday nights. Melvin would also work after dso but guessing he will be an afternoon gig or the perfect Sunday noon band.

The mission ballroom looked packed in the pics especially in comparison to the covid crowds I’ve seen lately. That amazing Coca Cola Roxy in Atlanta was at maybe 10% capacity Friday night. Someone on stage joked for people to bring a friend to the Saturday show. Skip said can you all bring 5. That mission looked like old days and a 3 day run there would be cool. Curious how packed the Anthem is gonna be. That place is the crown jewel of the new music venues but holding 6k means there’s gonna be some room to boogie.

I don’t know why I thought this was a small venue. Isn’t there a small ballroom in Denver that DSO has played. I googled mission ballroom and realized it’s about 4k capacity. Looks like a great spot to get down.

He needs to stock up on black sweat pants and black tees with an occasional red tee thrown in there. He was smoking a cig so he’s got that part down. did Jerry ever wear a full tie dye outfit or is that creative license. I’m sure there will be a lot of that. A pure Jerry docudrama would likely be a tad boring or at least based on his last 15 years. Play show, hide out, go to Hawaii.

There’s been a bunch of dso shows where I begged for a ballad to take a breather. With the last couple years of fewer shows and a more sedentary life, I think we’ve all lost a step or 2 on our dance game compared to pre pandemic so I need a ballad or long tuning every other song. Play Freebird.......ballad style!!

I hope Eaton drops one on archive.

That’s a great Atlanta dead band name for sure!!!!

My uncle got his PHD in anthropology from Duke studying Lemurs in Madagascar and “consulted” on some lemur puppet show on pbs similar to blues clues. He almost died living in the wild for 4-6 month stretches in Madagascar, being in the hospital for malaria for multiple month stretches. (Don’t go camping in the Madagascar jungle). The lengths people will go to get degrees that don’t offer real world jobs. But hey, now he’s 60 and has all his student loans paid off but had to take a job at a middling state university to get tenured like a middle Tennessee state. The life of an academic was always appealing to me besides the having to write papers and show up for class part to get the PHD. I liked the never having to really work idea and hanging out at college pubs and dating the constant stream of grad students. “Guys my age are so immature, professor. You are the only one who understands me”.

Starting out with a 69 to begin tour in Tahoe is the way to do it. Haven’t caught a 69 since Louisville in 2018 but caught 4 Straight of their 69s over an 18 month stretch from ‘16-‘18. This was actually the 1st 69 recreation since 11/19. Ugh. I knew I should have called social services and said I need a foster parent for 2 weeks so I can fly out west to see some shows. Those foster parents only make like $600 a month so that’s pro rated to $20 a day. That’s some cheap babysitting and pretty sure they are available at a moments notice. The Baby Kennel chain is pretty expensive in our area at like $700 a week. That would add up after a long tour plus they only play Christian music all day long but they don’t allow dancing as that leads to fornication. The boss likes Talking heads followed by Dead, so that’s a nonstarter and he dances a lot so don’t want him getting lashed while we are away.

That is the worst analogy I’ve ever heard. Bobby being on stage didn’t cost dso a shot in the jam band finals. This is music, not a scored sport. The creator of this music sat in and for 40 minutes they played a slightly different style of music with a legend. You’d likely hate jazz fest as at 2am on Frenchmen St there are tons of collaborations where a member from 5 different bands come together to do something different. My suggestion is see more shows. The more you see, the more you crave something like this that’s a bit different. Gr8fulpair and I freaking loved when Donna joined the band in Birmingham for a Jerry band show. We saw something unique. Bobby has joined the band like 3x or so ever?

how many are you doing. Did I last see you in Utah or Asheville?

I’d be thrilled to see bobby join dso for 5 songs even if it is slow tempo. It’s Bobby FFS. The band loves it too. It lends credibility and the articles about Bobby playing with them get shared across dead sites leading to more potential ticket buyers in the future. It’s good for the fans and the band!!!! Eaton plays Bobby guitar. He’s happy to have a sit while his idol fills in.

well my friends are spread out over the country and we get together for show runs. Locally you’d be extremely lucky to get 10 friends to do anything much less traveling. I’ve probably got more close friends from dso shows than I have locally considering kids, life and jobs get in the way like you say after 40.

Boring

The current reality sort of discourages a whole tour. You don’t have many who are on the road too which takes a bit of the fun away and covid restrictions are a cherry on top of the shit burger that’s our reality atm. I’ve been pulled on whole tours with peer pressure. The more the merrier and without friends on tour, it’s not the same. If 10 friends were like Tahoe baby, I maybe would have snuck out there for the weekend, but alas no. I think the lack of pull from different friend groups really hurts attendance. If your local friend group isn’t going to a local show for whatever reason you may not either. We are pulling some St Louis friends to Jrad in the Lou right before a 3 show dso run, but if we weren’t going, they wouldn’t either as they need that peer pressure. I figure I’ve gotten friends over the years to purchase 400 dso tickets and one year we had 7-8 from my hometown pack up for jubilee. MC was a huge peer pressure driver of ticket sales. He was maybe one of the best dso promoters ever as he’d make peeps get in his car to hit the next show. I was nrver like that but I put my share of peer pressure on friends be it local or far away. I think that’s sort of gone since the start of the pandemic. Turn and face the strange ch ch ch changes

So you have the right to spout your views but those musicians can’t. Talk about being a snowflake. Oh no. A musician pulled their music for their beliefs. I’m going to lose my mind. Joe Rogan can do what he wants but they can’t. Got it. It’s the mind of the right wing. They want to cancel anyone who doesn’t think like them and don’t understand the hypocrisy of their stance.

It was sad to see him have to be golf carted in and sadder to see the golf cart get stuck trying to turn around to take him 4 feet closer to the stage. You just don’t survive severe obesity into old age like that. You don’t want to see talented people like that die. A human body can survive most things into old age, but severe obesity isn’t one of them. He’s 68 years old. That’s pretty much a miracle and not to be morbid, but making it to jubilee at that age with that health condition is in no way assured.

saw him at the caverns earlier this year. I don’t think he’s long for this earth sadly. You get to a point to where you either decide to make a change to live or you don’t.