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Dark Star used to play longer fillers. I remember one Electic factory show went until ten after two in the morning. Might have been their first show there. Not sure.

I was also there, neat show. Hyryder in Indy April 4 and 5, should be rocking.

I have zero hard evidence, but I “feel” like several of my early GD shows in 77 and 78 were slightly longer than the almost every night solid 3.5 to 4 hrs (depending when they hit the stage) you get with DSO. Of course there’s the GD shakedown which must be considered part of the show. The one part of the GD experience which for better or worse is not recreated at almost all DSO soirées.

My one Radio City show, they played from 7:00 to 12:30 in the morning, obviously including set breaks.

Fantastic time. My GD fire has been rekindled

First post in something like 7 years. Forgive me in advance if I am out-of-bounds. Didn’t Ken Kesey and group eventually “graduate”? It’s been 40 years since I read Tom Wolf's book. Allow me to stick my neck out so you can chop it off. I experience that we will never remain in Terrapin as a constant state of being through L. Rather L provides a glimpse of what the Station is like – never permanent, just a glimpse that is dependent on the substance. After graduation I have nurtured those experiences with some other method that does not require anything external, but rather, comes from completely within ourselves. Forgive me, but I will now project me onto you. Like a Terrapin that retreats into its shell, as humans, I have discovered that I can turn the always-outward-facing senses and perceptions the other way, inward bound. For the last day since your post, I have imagined you discovering yoga, although I have never met you…..although maybe I danced in your circle at Hampton Beach. Like Starbucks, there is a studio on every corner. From what I know of you and Whitney, only through your writings, you guys have the modus operandi. Have you ever been to India where no substances are needed for the experience of Terrapin? Even that is not necessary (IMHO) but a fun trip. From your post, I know you have the ways and means. Your openness and writing skills are inspiring. Strangers stopping strangers. Frank